Thread: Union busting in Wisconsin!
February 28th, 2011, 09:43 PM #101
If it's false information, why has it not been debunked?
Madison Metro driver highest paid city employee
February 28th, 2011, 09:45 PM #102
February 28th, 2011, 09:51 PM #103
February 28th, 2011, 09:54 PM #104
You post... In large font as if increasing its size increases it's credibility (Source WTMJ) without even seeing if the information is actually there
And then you follow it up with this gem, "Some even post without reading it. Research via copy and paste."
You didn't even bother looking at WTMJ, did you
Last edited by Gomer; February 28th, 2011 at 10:07 PM.
February 28th, 2011, 10:13 PM #105
Here you go fact checker Apparently, IT WAS YOU who didn't bother looking.
Do you have any proof any of the rest of the data is incorrect?
All you can do is stomp your feet and throw a hissy fit because there is no wikipedia article as the source. It appears to have been an email.
Now, to you and Brandon who dispute the data and laugh it off as some conservative copy and paste bullshit, do 5 minutes of research, prove it's incorrect. Or get off your soapbox.
Your collegues can't.
Last edited by zen; February 28th, 2011 at 10:29 PM.
February 28th, 2011, 10:23 PM #106
February 28th, 2011, 10:35 PM #107
The link you posted substantiates none of these claims:
136 Drivers made more than $70,000
54 Drivers made more than $80,000
18 Drivers made more than $90,000
8 Drivers made more than $100,000
Top Driver made $117,000
Nice attempt at backtracking and trying to cover your ass. but it's still hanging out there.
Your reading comprehension isn't the greatest... my beef is not that the information is correct or incorrect. But that they buttressed their position with the salary of Dr. Deluca, who if anything, is grossly underpaid. I have tried to make that very clear in my posts.
If that's part of their argument... and is that weak... I don't care about the rest.
I want to know the idiot source that suggested Dr. Deluca was overpaid ("really??") as a "prof of nutrition science".
I support my positions from a wide variety of credible sources.
B. Did you find that source yet? I'd love to see it.
C. They misrepresented the qualifications of at least one of the people on the list for effect.
Do you think that Dr. Deluca is overpaid?
February 28th, 2011, 10:37 PM #108
February 28th, 2011, 10:45 PM #109
So if zen is at work one day and receives an e-mail that says, "Your wife is sleeping with one of your co-workers.", he automatically assumes the message is true unless he himself can prove the e-mail wrong?
"Sorry honey, I wasn't able to find any proof that disproves you were having an affair so I guess we're going to have to get a divorce now!"
February 28th, 2011, 10:49 PM #110
February 28th, 2011, 10:53 PM #111
Btw, is my wife simply sleeping over somewhere?
Last edited by zen; February 28th, 2011 at 10:56 PM.
February 28th, 2011, 10:58 PM #112
February 28th, 2011, 11:04 PM #113It is shameful to those that post it, that a man like Dr. Deluca is now guilty by association of something he has actually done the very opposite of. He is ridiculed by proxy as some schmuck of a "professor of nutrition science" (really??) who is just sucking away at the gravy of the public teat. It's disgusting.
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Last edited by zen; February 28th, 2011 at 11:09 PM.
February 28th, 2011, 11:09 PM #114
February 28th, 2011, 11:10 PM #115
February 28th, 2011, 11:11 PM #116
February 28th, 2011, 11:18 PM #117
February 28th, 2011, 11:23 PM #118
February 28th, 2011, 11:54 PM #119
Back to adult conversation. The fact is that teachers and other public workers do not have to apologize for their pay. They earned it and negotiated in good faith for their pay and benefits. If you don't have a pension plan ask yourself why not, instead of saying that someone else shouldn't have it because you don't. If we had universal health care in the U.S., the way they have it in every other developed country, that wouldn't even be an issue.
Pension plans and medical plans used to be standard for most workers but were lost in the race to the bottom for the middle class while the rich grabbed increases in income.
What I see here is that the upper class is winning. They've successfully divided middle-class private workers against middle-class public workers. While the middle-class is fighting among themselves, the rich are taking an ever increasing share of the spoils.Conservatives: "If the facts disagree with our opinion, ignore the facts -- or at least misrepresent them."
March 1st, 2011, 12:03 AM #120
MTA, are you blind to the fact that everyday taxpayers elected these representatives to do exactly what they're doing? Are you blind to the fact that most people aren't union and they resent people getting sweeter benefits while doing the same job, while being paid by the very money they pay in taxes?
There is a logical disconnect between public sector unions and everyone else. In reality, no employer can afford what these union folks have been getting free of charge from the taxpayer. People surely want free and awesome benefits, but those who employ logic and reason realize it's not possible.
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