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    Thumbs down How can they sentence him to death? He didn't use a GUN!

     
    Akihabara Killer Sentenced To Death

    Brian Ashcraft — Akihabara Killer Sentenced To Death On June 8, 2008, 25-year-old Tomohiro Kato drove a rented truck into a crowd in Tokyo's geek paradise, Akihabara. He got out and began stabbing random pedestrians. In his wake, seven were left dead and ten injured.
    He Killed 7 and injured 10, but he didnt use a GUN, How can that be!??
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    Did he use a single bladed knife or did he use a high capacity blade knife?

    Was he using a banned knife?

    Was the knife legally purchased?

    Did he have a permit to carry the knife?

    Does Japan have an anti-knife lobby to push for regulation of knives?




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    if the population would have been armed to the teeth this wouldn't have happened!11!!!!1!!1!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creatures View Post
    if the population would have been armed to the teeth this wouldn't have happened!11!!!!1!!1!!!!!

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    You goin' PRO gun on us now Creatures?

    Or are you now criticizing Japan for allowing knife ownership in Japan?

    Enquiring minds want to know!


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    Japan has one of the tightest gun control laws that I know of and have the lowest murder per capita. just because one freak went on a rampage and managed to kill 7 persons there is no need to rearm a highly peaceful people.

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    I was just talking about an already unarmed people which successfully found a way to become highly unarmed but still safer than the highest armed country in the world could dream of.

    IMO something like Japan is a worthy goal.

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    But doesn't that make being like Japan a worthy goal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creatures View Post
    I was just talking about an already unarmed people which successfully found a way to become highly unarmed but still safer than the highest armed country in the world could dream of.

    IMO something like Japan is a worthy goal.

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    Hate ta' break it to ya' Creatures . . . but the U.S. isn't the "highest armed country in the world" . . . if that's what you're thinking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sharder8 View Post
    Hate ta' break it to ya' Creatures . . . but the U.S. isn't the "highest armed country in the world" . . . if that's what you're thinking.


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    89 guns per 100 residents. Who is higher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharder8 View Post
    Hate ta' break it to ya' Creatures . . . but the U.S. isn't the "highest armed country in the world" . . . if that's what you're thinking.


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    from a pure statistical point of view it is. List of countries by gun ownership - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia hard to beat almost 90% I can't think of any African or middle eastern country that could really beat something like this.

    @Voogru Hey you got to start some day, even though they did it a few hundred years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voogru View Post
    They're a different culture. Look at how they respond to that disaster, and then compare it to the disaster in New Orleans.

    You're comparing apples to oranges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voogru View Post
    They're a different culture. Look at how they respond to that disaster, and then compare it to the disaster in New Orleans.

    You're comparing apples to oranges.
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    It's true. You had a bunch of goddamn savages looting the stores post-Katrina, while the Japanese have shown respect for personal property after the disaster. They care enough about each other and realize they're all in the same boat that further destruction is counterproductive. The animals who looted New Orleans didn't use guns to steal shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gomer View Post
    Actually, the numbers are deceptive . . .

    Many American's own more that 1 gun. The more accurate numbers would be the number homes with a firearm (est. at 50%), but even that's deceptive, as many homes have 2 or more adults in them. Personally, I would guess the number as between 25% - 50%.

    Now consider countries like Iraq or Israel or Switzerland, where most homes have firearms in them. Pakistan has even higher percentages of firearms per population than the U.S. The numbers also don't take into account weapons that are technically Government weapons, stored in the home, in countries like Switzerland, Israel, etc.


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    I would love to see that Iraq claim, if they really had so many guns and are anti-USA why are there only so few US casualties? just because you can see on TV how they walk around with guns doesn't mean everyone there owns one.

    Same with Switzerland, the Army rifle is stored without the breech block and the army issued ammunition (sealed ammunition) has been withdrawn anyway, which means even though some people have an army rifle don't have any ammunition or the firearm in a working condition. Most people even keep it locked up in the attic or basement.

    I know that in the USA Switzerland is claimed to be the country that PROVES that gun ownership reduces crimes but that's a joke. Most crimes with firearms here happen with the army rifle, chances are high that if you get hit by a bullet it came from an army rifle.

    there is so much wrong information going around concerning the Swiss and their firearms. just to further the US pro gun cult.

    we have lower crime rate because we have the best social system that I could think of. that's it.

    I mean how many times do you go to a firing range? or take a look at your firearms? Most over here see it once a year and use it once a year just because to get it over with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creatures View Post
    I would love to see that Iraq claim, if they really had so many guns and are anti-USA why are there only so few US casualties? just because you can see on TV how they walk around with guns doesn't mean everyone there owns one.
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    perhaps they are not so anti USA. Is it possible that their anti USA public speech is to protect them from the terrorists and hardliners bidding for power?

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    so basically they were highly armed weren't happy with Saddam but didn't do a thing?
    those two don't match up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creatures View Post
    so basically they were highly armed weren't happy with Saddam but didn't do a thing?
    those two don't match up

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    Saddam made sure that they did not rise up. His brutal retribution against organizers and their families and even towns kept things under wraps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharder8 View Post
    Actually, the numbers are deceptive . . .

    Many American's own more that 1 gun. The more accurate numbers would be the number homes with a firearm (est. at 50%), but even that's deceptive, as many homes have 2 or more adults in them. Personally, I would guess the number as between 25% - 50%.

    Now consider countries like Iraq or Israel or Switzerland, where most homes have firearms in them. Pakistan has even higher percentages of firearms per population than the U.S. The numbers also don't take into account weapons that are technically Government weapons, stored in the home, in countries like Switzerland, Israel, etc.


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    Hey, if you have a comprehensive set of data that includes weapons stored in homes for military use in addition to the 270,000,000 firearms floating around in US households, I'd be glad to take them into consideration.

    I don't care how you slice it... 270 million civilian firearms floating around a country of 300 million people is pretty heavily armed.

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    Amazon.com: The Bias Against Guns: Why Almost Everything You'Ve Heard About Gun Control Is Wrong (9780895261144): John R. Lott: Books

    Read that book, Gomer. It may not change your mind about guns, but it's worth a shot. Pardon the pun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creatures View Post
    so basically they were highly armed weren't happy with Saddam but didn't do a thing?
    those two don't match up

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    From what I understand, you dont always need overwhelming force to be a tyrant. All you need is the appearance of overwhelming force, the occasional excessive action to keep a people cowed(killing EVERY ONE of his opponents and most of their families can do it) and a willingness to reward people to spy on or "turn in" their neighbors or his enemies. Also, most of them believed they could not fix the problem by themselves.
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