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    Exclamation Missile Defense Agency Will Fight Parts Defects

    Missile Defense Agency Will Fight Parts Defects - Bloomberg

    U.S. missile defense contractors for the first time will be held financially responsible for poor- quality parts, such as those that have caused failures and delays to multimillion-dollar tests, according to documents and congressional testimony.

    A new “Contractor Accountability For Quality” clause will be included in the Missile Defense Agency’s contract for ground- based missile defense development and sustainment. Boeing Co. (BA) of Chicago is pitted against Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT) of Bethesda, Maryland, for the potential $600 million-a-year contract.



    It's about freakin' time !!!!!!!!


    Test Failures

    A $100 million missile interceptor test failed in January 2010 when a Raytheon Co. (RTN) warhead thruster malfunctioned because of a missing “lockwire,” the agency said.

    A separate $41 million test of Lockheed Martin’s Thaad interceptor failed in December 2009 when an aerial target provided by an L-3 Communications Holdings Inc. (LLL) unit had an incorrectly rigged connector.

    In a third instance, a $100 million missile defense test was delayed at least eight months in 2008 because of a component failure in a data transmission device made by another L-3 unit.

    Until now, many missile defense contracts have been cost- plus types that require the U.S. to pay for cost overruns and missile failures. The MDA has the recourse to dock contractors some award or all of their incentive fee
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    Sounds good to me. Cost+ tend to go way over budget. Hopefully this will spur some innovation and better quality control. OTOH, this could also lead to higher contract prices as the contractors pad the estimates to make sure the profit margin stays high.
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    This is also an acknowledgement of the problem of counterfeit parts from China.
    “Rancher Bundy should’ve told the feds that those were Mexican cows – who came across the border illegally to seek better grazing opportunities. It was an act of love.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckiechan View Post
    This is also an acknowledgement of the problem of counterfeit parts from China.
    We get parts from CHINA ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    We get parts from CHINA ??
    Yeah... ya know the parts that failed, 'Made In China' yup, that's the ticket

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    Yeah... ya know the parts that failed, 'Made In China' yup, that's the ticket
    It really is a real problem.

    Chinese counterfeit electronic parts 'are putting U.S. military at risk' | Mail Online
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    The problem still lies squarely with the US contractor's QC team...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckiechan View Post
    They oughta make the Chinese mark 'em with bright , YELLOOOOOOOW paint !!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    They oughta make the Chinese mark 'em with bright , YELLOOOOOOOW paint !!!!!!!!!!!
    They do!

    Made in China

    You just need to be able to find where it's stamped.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sharder8 View Post
    They do!

    Made in China

    You just need to be able to find where it's stamped.


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    In Taiwan
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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    In Taiwan
    Possible . . . but doubtful, as a lot of Taiwan production is now being moved to mainland China, to cut costs.


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    In the end this may seem like a good idea but somehow it will simply result in the products costing more.

    Extra safety development time, and redundant checks for chinese parts will somehow result in higher costs than the whoopses. I don't know how or when but somehow the government will spend more for this edict, even with it's obvious no brainer status I know they can screw this up

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    They are stamped "Cisco. Taiwan", for example.

    COUNTERFEIT chips, not just inferior chips. Chips designed and stamped to pass as original OEM.
    “Rancher Bundy should’ve told the feds that those were Mexican cows – who came across the border illegally to seek better grazing opportunities. It was an act of love.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckiechan View Post
    They are stamped "Cisco. Taiwan", for example.

    COUNTERFEIT chips, not just inferior chips. Chips designed and stamped to pass as original OEM.
    What makes you think Original OEM chips are any better than the Counterfeit ones ????

    WE just had a new Mother Board replaced in our Sony LED HD tv, and it wouldn't boot up. Running on the old one til a replacement arrives. So much for OEM
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