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    An Apology from Rush Limbaugh

    A Statement from Rush
    March 03, 2012

    For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke.

    I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress. I personally do not agree that American citizens should pay for these social activities. What happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Where do we draw the line? If this is accepted as the norm, what will follow? Will we be debating if taxpayers should pay for new sneakers for all students that are interested in running to keep fit?In my monologue, I posited that it is not our business whatsoever to know what is going on in anyone's bedroom nor do I think it is a topic that should reach a Presidential level.

    My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices.
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    The mans got a point.
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    He usually does Solo. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoloCamo View Post
    The mans got a point.
    Until he attacks one of our female citizens for speaking her mind.

    PH*#k Rush and the horse he rode in on .
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    The only thing Limbaugh cares about is money, and losing advertisers is the only thing that could make him apologize. But this wasn't much of an apology; "I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation" is pretty feeble.
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    I read Rush's apology earlier today and the impression that immediately hit me was one of insincerity. Not because he is losing advertisers but I think that is exactly why he did apologise, but because he reiterated the points he was making when he got all rude.

    The next time you have reason to apologise to your wife or girlfriend see how well received your apology has been taken when you state you were right in your premise but wrong in how you treated her.

    His apology should not have reaffirmed his position. His apology completely lacks any sincerity. What an a-hole.
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    Yes, he's an a-hole for standing his ground on his own unwavering opinion. Sarcasm falls flat with the majority of thin-skinned Americans. His delivery and choice of words twisted more than a few panties this go-around.

    If people think all apologies should reflect a change in a person's stance on an issue they are plain being naive. It also reeks of 1st Amendment right suppression.
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    Nobody expects a change of opinion within an apology. The opinion should not come into play at all. It's called making excuses when you should be apologising.
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    Toad, had your daughter been called a "slut" and a "prostitute" simply for standing up for her reproductive rights, I doubt you'd be willing to chalk it up to simple sarcasm.

    I agree that his opinion doesn't need to reflect a change in underlying opinion in order to be sincere. However, the apology that he offered was pretty weak. He should have just acknowledged he was wrong and moved on without trying to justify it.
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    If I had an entitled political activist daughter demanding gov't paid birth control before a media-covered Georgetown Uni committee I'd expect flak from all directions. Especially when parading one's personal sex life publically. It goes with the territory under 1st amendment rights. "Captain Save-a-Ho" Obama rode to her side on his trusty steed consoling her on how courageous she was, exercising his rights as well.

    If you have a problem with women being called, "bitches, ho's, and sluts" just turn on MTV or the radio. You won't see an FCC crackdown on that flavor of free speech. Ever hear of Slut Walk?
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    Who's talking about a "crackdown on free speech"?

    Regardless, someone publicly making a case before congress does not make the comments appropriate. My original point stands. You still wouldn't appreciate it, and you still wouldn't think the comments were appropriate.

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    You just answered your own statement. And the point Rush was making inviting the media and government into one's sex life. At taxpayer expense.
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    Maybe someone can explain why Rush only dealt with the sex use and didn't care to comment on the medical necessity of contraceptives. That was over 2/3rds of what Fluke talked about but he skipped it entirely. Rush was caught playing shock jock without a brain. Now he's bleeding sponsors.
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    Medical necessity to regulate a woman's mense has always been covered under most private plans via prescription. Ms. Fluke has no skin in that game other than victimized poster-child for freebie nationalized free contraception in Obamacare.

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    Transcript of testimony by Sandra Fluke

    I see by your comments Toad that you don't know what Fluke said to congress.
    “Leader [Nancy] Pelosi, members of Congress, good morning. And thank you for calling this hearing on women’s health and for allowing me to testify on behalf of the women who will benefit from the Affordable Care Act contraceptive coverage regulation.

    Sandra Fluke, a Georgetown University Law student, testifies before the House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee on the importance of contraceptive coverage for students and employees at religious-affiliated institutions. Last week, Fluke was denied the opportunity to speak before the House Oversight Committee hearing on women's reproductive health. Instead, an all-male panel of religious leaders testified on why they should be allowed to deny women contraceptive coverage. SOURCE: C-Span.org
    Read more: Sandra Fluke draws attention to financial & health burdens women suffer without contraceptive coverage
    “My name is Sandra Fluke, and I’m a third-year student at Georgetown Law School. I’m also a past-president of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice or LSRJ. And I’d like to acknowledge my fellow LSRJ members and allies and all of the student activists with us and thank them so much for being here today.
    (Applause)
    “We, as Georgetown LSRJ, are here today because we’re so grateful that this regulation implements the non-partisan medical advice of the Institute of Medicine.
    “I attend a Jesuit law school that does not provide contraceptive coverage in its student health plan. And just as we students have faced financial, emotional, and medical burdens as a result, employees at religiously-affiliated hospitals and institutions and universities across the country have suffered similar burdens.
    “We are all grateful for the new regulation that will meet the critical health care needs of so many women.
    “Simultaneously, the recently announced adjustment addresses any potential conflict with the religious identity of Catholic or Jesuit institutions.
    “When I look around my campus, I see the faces of the women affected by this lack of contraceptive coverage.



    “And especially in the last week, I have heard more and more of their stories. On a daily basis, I hear yet from another woman from Georgetown or from another school or who works for a religiously-affiliated employer, and they tell me that they have suffered financially and emotionally and medically because of this lack of coverage.
    “And so, I’m here today to share their voices, and I want to thank you for allowing them – not me – to be heard.
    “Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school. For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships, that’s practically an entire summer’s salary. 40% of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to us that they struggle financially as a result of this policy.
    “One told us about how embarrassed and just powerless she felt when she was standing at the pharmacy counter and learned for the first time that contraception was not covered on her insurance and she had to turn and walk away because she couldn’t afford that prescription. Women like her have no choice but to go without contraception.
    “Just last week, a married female student told me that she had to stop using contraception because she and her husband just couldn’t fit it into their budget anymore. Women employed in low-wage jobs without contraceptive coverage face the same choice.
    “And some might respond that contraception is accessible in lots of other ways. Unfortunately, that’s just not true.
    “Women’s health clinic provide a vital medical service, but as the Guttmacher Institute has definitely documented, these clinics are unable to meet the crushing demand for these services. Clinics are closing, and women are being forced to go without the medical care they need.
    “How can Congress consider the [Rep. Jeff] Fortenberry (R-Neb.), [Sen. Marco] Rubio (R-Fla.) and [Sen. Roy] Blunt (R-Mo.) legislation to allow even more employers and institutions to refuse contraception coverage and then respond that the non-profit clinics should step up to take care of the resulting medical crisis, particularly when so many legislators are attempting to de-fund those very same clinics?
    “These denial of contraceptive coverage impact real people.
    “In the worst cases, women who need these medications for other medical conditions suffer very dire consequences.



    “A friend of mine, for example, has polycystic ovarian syndrome, and she has to take prescription birth control to stop cysts from growing on her ovaries. Her prescription is technically covered by Georgetown’s insurance because it’s not intended to prevent pregnancy.
    “Unfortunately, under many religious institutions and insurance plans, it wouldn’t be. There would be no exception for other medical needs. And under Sen. Blunt’s amendment, Sen. Rubio’s bill or Rep. Fortenberry’s bill there’s no requirement that such an exception be made for these medical needs.
    “When this exception does exist, these exceptions don’t accomplish their well-intended goals because when you let university administrators or other employers rather than women and their doctors dictate whose medical needs are legitimate and whose are not, women’s health takes a back seat to a bureaucracy focused on policing her body.
    “In 65% of the cases at our school, our female students were interrogated by insurance representatives and university medical staff about why they needed prescription and whether they were lying about their symptoms.
    “For my friend and 20% of the women in her situation, she never got the insurance company to cover her prescription. Despite verifications of her illness from her doctor, her claim was denied repeatedly on the assumption that she really wanted birth control to prevent pregnancy. She’s gay. So clearly polycystic ovarian syndrome was a much more urgent concern than accidental pregnancy for her.
    “After months paying over $100 out-of-pocket, she just couldn’t afford her medication anymore, and she had to stop taking it.
    “I learned about all of this when I walked out of a test and got a message from her that in the middle of the night in her final exam period she’d been in the emergency room. She’d been there all night in just terrible, excruciating pain. She wrote to me, ‘It was so painful I’d woke up thinking I’ve been shot.’
    “Without her taking the birth control, a massive cyst the size of a tennis ball had grown on her ovary. She had to have surgery to remove her entire ovary as a result.
    “On the morning I was originally scheduled to give this testimony, she was sitting in a doctor’s office, trying to cope with the consequences of this medical catastrophe.
    “Since last year’s surgery, she’s been experiencing night sweats and weight gain and other symptoms of early menopause as a result of the removal of her ovary. She’s 32-years-old.
    “As she put it, ‘If my body indeed does enter early menopause, no fertility specialist in the world will be able to help me have my own children. I will have no choice at giving my mother her desperately desired grandbabies simply because the insurance policy that I paid for, totally unsubsidized by my school, wouldn’t cover my prescription for birth control when I needed it.’
    “Now, in addition to potentially facing the health complications that come with having menopause at such an early age – increased risk of cancer, heart disease, osteoporosis – she may never be able to conceive a child.
    “Some may say that my friend’s tragic story is rare. It’s not. I wish it were
    “One woman told us doctors believe she has endometriosis, but that can’t be proven without surgery. So the insurance has not been willing to cover her medication – the contraception she needs to treat her endometriosis.
    “Recently, another woman told me that she also has polycystic ovarian syndrome and she’s struggling to pay for her medication and is terrified to not have access to it.
    “Due to the barriers erected by Georgetown’s policy, she hasn’t been reimbursed for her medications since last August.
    “I sincerely pray that we don’t have to wait until she loses an ovary or is diagnosed with cancer before her needs and the needs of all of these women are taken seriously.
    “Because this is the message that not requiring coverage of contraception sends: A woman’s reproductive health care isn’t a necessity, isn’t a priority.
    “One woman told us that she knew birth control wasn’t covered on the insurance and she assumed that that’s how Georgetown’s insurance handle all of women’s reproductive and sexual health care. So when she was raped, she didn’t go to the doctor, even to be examined or tested for sexually transmitted infections, because she thought insurance wasn’t going to cover something like that – something that was related to a woman’s reproductive health.
    “As one other student put it: ‘This policy communicates to female students that our school doesn’t understand our needs.’
    “These are not feelings that male fellow student experience and they’re not burdens that male students must shoulder.
    “In the media lately, some conservative Catholic organizations have been asking what did we expect when we enroll in a Catholic school?
    “We can only answer that we expected women to be treated equally, to not have our school create untenable burdens that impede our academic success.
    “We expected that our schools would live up to the Jesuit creed of ‘cura personalis‘ – to care for the whole person – by meeting all of our medical needs.
    “We expected that when we told our universities of the problem this policy created for us as students, they would help us.
    “We expected that when 94% of students oppose the policy the university would respect our choices regarding insurance students pay for – completely unsubsidized by the university.
    “We did not expect that women would be told in the national media that we should have gone to school elsewhere.
    “And even if that meant going to a less prestigious university, we refuse to pick between a quality education and our health. And we resent that in the 21st century, anyone think it’s acceptable to ask us to make this choice simply because we are women.
    “Many of the women whose stories I’ve shared today are Catholic women. So ours is not a war against the church. It is a struggle for the access to the health care we need.
    “The President of the Association of Jesuit Colleges has shared that Jesuit colleges and the universities appreciate the modifications to the rule announced recently. Religious concerns are addressed and women get the health care they need. And I sincerely hope that that is something we can all agree upon.
    “Thank you very much.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    You just answered your own statement. And the point Rush was making inviting the media and government into one's sex life. At taxpayer expense.
    I thought that the "Insurance Companies" had to pay?????

    Quote “I attend a Jesuit law school that does not provide contraceptive coverage in its student health plan."

    Reading comprehension 101, Toad
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    Beemer, bless you from the bottom of my heart for posting this . . .
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    You're welcome Pex but I thought anyone commenting on this issue would have bumped into the trascript by now. My fault for assuming I guess. Glad to help out.
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    Aww... group hug!


    Sandra Fluke, a Georgetown University Law student, testifies before the House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee on the importance of contraceptive coverage for students and employees at religious-affiliated institutions. (Her choice) Last week, Fluke was denied the opportunity to speak before the House Oversight Committee hearing on women's reproductive health. Instead, an all-male panel of religious leaders testified on why they should be allowed to deny women contraceptive coverage.

    Sandra Fluke draws attention to financial & health burdens women suffer without contraceptive coverage. Really? It still sucks to be female in 2012?

    “My name is Sandra Fluke, and I’m a third-year student at Georgetown Law School. I’m also a past-president of Georgetown Law Students for Reproductive Justice(Injustice?) or LSRJ. And I’d like to acknowledge my fellow LSRJ members and allies and all of the student activists with us and thank them so much for being here today.

    (Applause)
    “We, as Georgetown LSRJ, are here today because we’re so grateful that this regulation implements the non-partisan medical advice of the Institute of Medicine.
    “I attend a Jesuit law school(by choice)that does not provide contraceptive coverage in its student health plan. And just as we students have faced financial, emotional, (sexual) and medical burdens as a result, employees at religiously-affiliated hospitals and institutions and universities across the country have suffered similar burdens.

    “We are all grateful for the new regulation that will meet the critical health care needs of so many women. (HS HPV shots arent enough?)
    “Simultaneously, the recently announced adjustment addresses any potential conflict with the religious identity of Catholic or Jesuit institutions.
    “When I look around my campus, I see the faces of the women affected by this lack of contraceptive coverage. (Really?)


    “And especially in the last week, I have heard more and more of their stories. On a daily basis, I hear yet from another woman from Georgetown or from another school or who works for a religiously-affiliated employer, and they tell me that they have suffered financially and emotionally and medically because of this lack of coverage.(Then don't work there.)

    “And so, I’m here today to share their voices(i.e. cry out at the injustice), and I want to thank you for allowing them – not me – to be heard. (You chose to speak for all in a publicized venue. Woman-Up.)

    “Without insurance coverage, contraception, as you know, can cost a woman over $3,000 during law school. (Oh, we're talking the 1% now, Occupiers take note) For a lot of students who, like me(yes you and only you), are on public interest(free) scholarships, that’s practically an entire summer’s salary 40% of the female students at Georgetown Law reported to us that they struggle financially as a result of this policy.

    Here come the anecdotes:

    “One" told us about how embarrassed and just "powerless" she felt when she was standing at the pharmacy counter and learned for the first time that contraception was not covered on her insurance and she had to turn and walk away because she couldn’t afford that prescription. Women like her have no choice but to go without contraception. (Sure beats sleeping on a subway grate in Manhattan.)

    “Just last week, a married female student told me that she had to stop using contraception because she and her husband just couldn’t fit it into their budget anymore. Women employed in low-wage jobs without contraceptive coverage face the same choice.

    “And some might respond that contraception is accessible in lots of other ways. Unfortunately, that’s just not true. (How so? Every hear of Planned Parenthood?)

    “Women’s health clinic provide a vital medical service, but as the Guttmacher Institute has definitely documented, these clinics are unable to meet the crushing demand for these services. Clinics are closing, and women are being forced to go without the medical care they need. (Correction: They are not able to receive needed Federal and State funding to operate).


    “How can Congress consider the [Rep. Jeff] Fortenberry (R-Neb.), [Sen. Marco] Rubio (R-Fla.) and [Sen. Roy] Blunt (R-Mo.) legislation to allow even more employers and institutions to refuse contraception coverage and then respond that the non-profit clinics should step up to take care of the resulting medical crisis, particularly when so many legislators are attempting to de-fund those very same clinics?
    “These denial of contraceptive coverage impact real people. (They sure do)

    “In the worst cases, women who need these medications for other medical conditions suffer very dire consequences." (Now we're talking logical.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beemer View Post
    You're welcome Pex but I thought anyone commenting on this issue would have bumped into the trascript by now. My fault for assuming I guess. Glad to help out.
    It's hard for me to believe that anyone commenting WOULDN'T have read the transcript

    Example

    "The difference between the two has sparked conspiracy theories among conservative allies of Ms. Palin, who comes across in both the book and the film as woefully unprepared for the campaign and for the vice presidency. The film, they assert, was conceived by Hollywood liberals to undermine a future run for president by Ms. Palin, who has pre-emptively attacked the film as a work of fiction, though she says she has not seen it. "
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