June 15th, 2012, 10:51 PM #1
Young illegal immigrants’ amnesty could tighten competition for jobs, college
Young illegal immigrants’ amnesty could tighten competition for jobs, college - The Washington Post
But opponents of illegal immigration warned that the policy could create significant new competition for jobs and university slots at a time of nationwide recession and numerous states’ efforts to curb public spending.
“I see a tidal wave coming,” said Brad Botwin, president of Help Save Maryland, a group that opposes legalization for undocumented immigrants. “Half of our college graduates today can’t find jobs, and the unemployment rate for high-school-aged Americans is extremely high. This is unfair to U.S. citizens and legal immigrants who are out there struggling to get ahead.”
Instead of voting for a candidate, I wish that my vote would nullify another's vote, reducing the overall total for said candidate. Then , I'd feel like true expression had been exercised.
June 15th, 2012, 11:42 PM #2
Hell pickel . . . you ought to know that while employment opportunities are tough for HS and college grads, it's even worse for those 55+. Even the Labor Department has recognized that if you're 55+ and un-employed, your chances of finding employment is almost 0.
“It doesn’t seem the administration is considering the cascading consequences,” Camarota said. “What does this mean for unemployed Americans who will be competing for jobs with a million-plus people who can now apply for work authorization? Is this really a good idea?”
Yeah, I'm un-employed now . . . 70% disabled and have medical limitations. REAL NICE job market out there for me. Then again, I filed for Unemployment and SSDI the same day. Hopefully Unemployment will allow me to survive until I get SSDI.
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June 16th, 2012, 12:40 AM #3
This whole subject is logically flawed. Obviously, if the people are already here, it means they are already employed and some already go to school. The very first person interviewed in the WP article is a college student.
Claiming there will be "significant competition" is false.Good job, friend-of-friends!
June 16th, 2012, 12:58 AM #4
Give it 6 months to a year tony and you'll see if it's false or not.
June 16th, 2012, 11:20 AM #5
Let's use our brains here, whatsay? What have people been yammering about for years? That all them durn immigrants have been tookin our jerbs!
So how is it possible for this situation to be new or different? Again, these people are already here. Again, they already have jobs. Again, they already attend school. Again, some are even in our military. The only thing that can possibly change is that they will actually be counted instead of working off the books, so our employment data might finally balance out now. Hell, we might even make a bit more tax revenue.Good job, friend-of-friends!
June 16th, 2012, 11:35 AM #6
First of all they cannot legally work without a social security number. If they have one, it is stolen or fake.
You cannot join the military unless you are a citizen.
When they complete school, they have to steal an identity like mom and dad to work. He has also instituted "catch and release" at the border - essentially an open border policy. Just last year he admitted he didn't have the authority to do that - "It was congresses job". Now to boost his falling numbers, it's suddenly OK?
BTW, what ever happened to the liberals howling about the "Imperial Presidency" under Bush? Obama is lawless, and has told congress to shove it.
BTW - are you hearing about the petulant reporter who "heckled" the president? His question:
The president was briefly interrupted by a reporter who asked: "Mr. President, why do you favor foreign workers over Americans?"
Obama sternly told the reporter – identified as Neil Munro of The Daily Caller – not to interrupt.
“Excuse me, sir, but it’s not time for questions," Obama responded.
“Are you going to take questions?” Munro asked.
“Not while I’m speaking.” Obama said.
Last edited by Chuckiechan; June 16th, 2012 at 11:48 AM.Obama: The rich have the Federal Reserve and the poor have Harry Reid... LOL. Life really is unfair!
June 16th, 2012, 12:52 PM #7
So your plan is? Take a bunch of kids who we've already spent millions through tax dollars to educate and who are already in the workplace and just kick them out? Kids who had no choice to come over? Kids who are now more or less integrated into America?Good job, friend-of-friends!
June 16th, 2012, 03:34 PM #8
Don't you think that thousands or ,even, millions of illegals will come over , across the border and claim to have been here all along with the help of illegal parents ?? If , nothing else, the confusion and mayhem this will cause the immigration authorities and the State and Local Governments. Looks like Obombma has the Feds bamboozled.
Barry should change his middle name from Hussein to Jose.
June 16th, 2012, 03:42 PM #9
For years, one way to citizenship was by serving in the military, unfortunately, that has not always been equally applied or the steps followed through with.
June 16th, 2012, 03:48 PM #10
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Note that this action doesn't make them citizens, and it doesn't make them legal immigrants. It merely stops deporting them without cause if they haven't committed crimes and if they've taken steps to better themselves through education or military service. They're still subject to deportation if they fuck up, and their job permits are good for only two years (renewable, but it's not like having a green card).
What it does do is make them free from arbitrary mistreatment by employers who hold deportation over their heads if they ask for the legal rights that any employee is entitled to: safe working conditions, pay for work performed, and freedom from harassment.In judging a two-person singing contest, never award the prize to the second soprano having heard only the first.
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June 16th, 2012, 04:01 PM #11
It's all for the VOTES and, I foresee, many added to the Sweat Shops with many of our own citizens losing their livelihood and sinking deeper in the depression we are now experiencing .
June 16th, 2012, 04:21 PM #12
Last edited by Chuckiechan; June 16th, 2012 at 04:31 PM.Obama: The rich have the Federal Reserve and the poor have Harry Reid... LOL. Life really is unfair!
June 16th, 2012, 04:34 PM #13
June 16th, 2012, 08:10 PM #14
Since they are already here earning a living (I'm not hearing of starvation deaths of immigrants, are you?) then they already have jobs.
So how the hell does someone who already has a job make jobs more scarce simply because the President says they can't be deported without cause?
And since they can't be deported merely for having been brought here at some point, it means some won't be forced to accept pay under the table anymore which means they can demand higher wages (or at least minimum. There are many documented cases of wage abuse).
Put simply, not only are you dead wrong, but the opposite of what you claim will happen is the truth.Good job, friend-of-friends!
June 16th, 2012, 09:04 PM #15
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