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    Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door

     
    Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door | Local News - WESH Home

    In the early-morning hours, deputies knocked on 26-year-old Andrew Lee Scott's door without identifying themselves as law enforcement officers. Scott answered the door with a gun in his hand.

    "When we knocked on the door, the door opened and the occupant of that apartment was pointing a gun at deputies, and that's when we opened fire and killed him," Lt. John Herrell said. "Even though this subject is not the one we were looking for when he opened the door. He was pointing the gun at the deputy and if you put yourselves in the deputy's shoes. They were there to pick up someone who was wanted for an attempted homicide."

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    "It's just a bizarre set of circumstances. The bottom line is, you point a gun at a deputy sheriff or police office, you're going to get shot," Herrell said.
    BANG BANG - YOU'RE DEAD..... Oooops Sorry - Wrong Guy

    I'd like to sit on that jury.

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    so who would you punish?

    The responding officer who was confronted by a gun wielding supected murderer?

    The person who directed the officer to the wrong door?

    Police are put in harms way collecting the worst of society. What would you have done if confronted by a person whom you believe is wanted murderer at a door of a residence you are forced to enter in the course of your job and said murderer presents himself at the door with a gun?

    What does the police manual say to do in such a situation?

    BTW I am not against prosecution of the officers based on what I know now. But some allowance needs to be made for a cop doing his job in good faith.
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    The responding officer who was confronted by a gun wielding suspected murderer?
    WRONG.... The officer was at the wrong freakin door @ 1:30 in the morning pounding the hell out of it.

    That's the perfect example of why homeowners own guns.

    But according to EPI - we should give the cops a medal for surviving the ordeal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve R Jones View Post
    WRONG.... The officer was at the wrong freakin door @ 1:30 in the morning pounding the hell out of it.
    Not wrong.

    The officer believed he was responding to a murderer. Do you know if he chose the door wrongly or was he directed to enter that specific residence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve R Jones View Post
    WRONG.... The officer was at the wrong freakin door @ 1:30 in the morning pounding the hell out of it.

    That's the perfect example of why homeowners own guns.
    What -- in order to get shot by cops?
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    errr..they knocked on his door because there was a motorocyle in front of his house. they didn't bother to verify the suspects actual residence which was supposedly right across from there, nor did they identify themselves.

    Sorry that's BS!

    So was the BS statement by the PR guy. " point a gun at a deputy sheriff or police office, you're going to get shot" If they didn't identify themselves then he had no chance to even know they were officers.

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    IMO the police made the mistake and should be held responsible. They had the wrong address!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicheemxX View Post
    errr..they knocked on his door because there was a motorocyle in front of his house. they didn't bother to verify the suspects actual residence which was supposedly right across from there, nor did they identify themselves.

    Sorry that's BS!

    So was the BS statement by the PR guy. " point a gun at a deputy sheriff or police office, you're going to get shot" If they didn't identify themselves then he had no chance to even know they were officers.
    The guy should have NEVER come out of concealment and could have shot the cops before they even knew where his rounds were coming from and gotten off using self defense.
    The Law Enforcement mentality
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxmancometh View Post
    IMO the police made the mistake and should be held responsible. They had the wrong address!

    It's just sad. They made a mistake and the innocent guy paid for it with his life. No "do-overs" here. If I lived in a neighborhood this wouldn't bode well for me, my reaction would be the same. I have to wonder if he had a "peep hole" installed in his door. I don't, it sort of takes the invulnerability out of a steel door.

    It's a small town. I have cancer pain. Kids around here will strip the telephone wires going to their own home to sell the copper and buy pills. It's worse than I can describe. So I even have motion detectors at two intervals. And two large dogs that "patrol" dusk to dawn.

    I feel for the deputy too. His buddies will tell him he did the right thing. But guess what's going through his mind every night when he is trying to go to sleep?

    No win here, just a modern day tragedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Networker4321 View Post

    It's a small town. I have cancer pain. Kids around here will strip the telephone wires going to their own home to sell the copper and buy pills. .
    A "Buck & Boost" transformer would come in handy here!!! Smoke 'em !!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    The guy should have NEVER come out of concealment and could have shot the cops before they even knew where his rounds were coming from and gotten off using self defense.
    The Law Enforcement mentality
    He wouldn't have gotten off anything pickel . . .

    Once he started shooting at them, they would continue until he was dead. As it stands, the cops have to explain why they shot the wrong man.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sharder8 View Post
    He wouldn't have gotten off anything pickel . . .

    Once he started shooting at them, they would continue until he was dead. As it stands, the cops have to explain why they shot the wrong man.


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    I'm sure that makes the corpse feel good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharder8 View Post
    He wouldn't have gotten off anything pickel . . .

    Once he started shooting at them, they would continue until he was dead. As it stands, the cops have to explain why they shot the wrong man.


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    "In the early-morning hours, deputies knocked on 26-year-old Andrew Lee Scott's door without identifying themselves as law enforcement officers."

    I never open my door without getting some kind of response from the person seeking entrance( w/ my 12 gauge out of sight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve R Jones
    I'd like to sit on that jury.
    Ya Cops are way outta control Steve!!

    They should have CALLED HIS NAME to see if it was the right guy!! (And arent they cops?? THEY SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE PERP LOOKS LIKE)


    Totally sad and disgusting.........

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    Ok they did not identify themselves. They identified the address wrongly by themselves. sounds like they are the responsible parties.

    Now what is your punishment for them poorly doing their job in good faith. I guess manslaughter. it is more a horrible tragedy than a crime though. I would have a real hard time rendering judgement against them.

    There is the horror of the family destroyed by a horrible mistake. there is the cop who probably will have difficulty living with himself. But the cop and the cops family is the second victim here. I feel for all parties involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude111 View Post
    They should have CALLED HIS NAME to see if it was the right guy!! (And arent they cops?? THEY SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE PERP LOOKS LIKE)..
    We are talking about a situation based reflex. The cops were not evaluating whether he had a tattoo and a scar on his right ear. A boxer will give you an upper cut if he sees an opening when in a fight. But when hanging with his buddies at home he is still a boxer but he does not deck you every opening he gets only when in a fight.

    These cops were in work mode attempting to apprehend a murderer. They did their jobs wrong and for that they should be punished. But I am still inclined to go for civil penalty rather than criminal.

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    Ya probably NOTHING will happen to them!

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    I hope suspension or firing at the least.

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