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    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ no1_vern's Avatar
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    Exclamation Kittens/puppies $10, Free to snake owner*

     
    *IF I get to watch.

    Some people dont agree with the sentiment of the kittens/puppies being usefully disposed of.

    With the many millions of pets that must be euthanized yearly, why is this such a big issue with so many people?
    They say technology slows down for no one. I know it outruns my wallet. I figure its because my wallet isn't light enough yet.

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    You know, sometimes vern it's like you have no moral filter...
    "Sometimes life is just what we make it."

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    so it is ok for a snake to eat rats hampsters and rabbits but not small dogs?

    Cats of course are not a problem with any rational person.

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    LMAO - I happen to recall seeing more than a few craigslist posting about rats/mice/hampsters ect for free with the exception of snake owners. If it goes to a good cause should it really matter??

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    Back in the 70's when California had a big influx of Asian refugees, the city pound had to add a fee because they suddenly started getting lots of Asians picking up dogs. But they way they were handling them... feeling the meat so to speak, was a clue that all wasn't what it seemed.

    It like feeding the euthanized pets to the homeless... we don't do that here.

    But we eat chickens, beef, pork, and fish. But someday we may become hungry enough...
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    I often joke when my dog has misbehaved that if he doesn't shape up that I'm going to drop him off at the Asian supermarket.

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    Or the White House...
    Obama doesn't need an "enemies list"... He sees half the country as his enemy.

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    My cat used to bring snakes into the house. It only seems fair that if she found a big one - let the best monster win. Course - then I'd have to kill the snake
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    Quote Originally Posted by surreal View Post
    You know, sometimes vern it's like you have no moral filter...
    What moral do you speak of?

    is it immoral to feed a cat to a snake?

    Why? How is it different than a rabbit, rat, or any other natural food the snake would eat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epidemic View Post
    Why? How is it different than a rabbit, rat, or any other natural food the snake would eat?
    Physiologically there is little difference. But Humans are emotionally closer to dogs and cats because of their use as work/companionship animals.

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    Would YOU be up in arms about some person trying to receive unwanted dogs or cars who wants food for their pets?
    They say technology slows down for no one. I know it outruns my wallet. I figure its because my wallet isn't light enough yet.

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    Just because you are offering a pet for free does not mean that you necessarily want it eaten by a snake.

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    So, if you are giving up the responsibility for a pet, you really AREN'T giving up the responsibility for the pet?

    Why give them away then? Just keep them.
    They say technology slows down for no one. I know it outruns my wallet. I figure its because my wallet isn't light enough yet.

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    I have a snake but he's too small to feed big creatures. He's a full grown adult milk snake but only eats mice. I wish he'd eat our neighbors dumb cats!
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    There's a difference between responsibility and moral "desire". You may give a child up for adoption but that doesn't mean that you no longer care about their future. The same goes for a pet.

    Pets are adopted in good faith that their health and wellbeing are going to be maintained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon184 View Post
    There's a difference between responsibility and moral "desire".
    I'm sorry but what the heck does that mean? What the hell is a moral desire?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon
    You may give a child up for adoption but that doesn't mean that you no longer care about their future.
    No, but it isn't your responsibility after you give it up. In fact, it isn't any of your business after you give it up. Are you responsible for it morally? No. You gave it up. People need to stop getting so attached to things... it isn't a question of morality if you still care for its well being, it's greed or desire to have it back. In which case you shouldn't have given it up to begin with.

    Besides... I don't recognize this global force known as "morality," I think it's a very subjective term. Don't make me follow your* morality either (how would that be 'moral' on your part?); what is morally right to one person isn't the same as to another in my book.

    * Not you personally, brandon. Saying that's how I feel generally speaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marknjas033 View Post
    I'm sorry but what the heck does that mean? What the hell is a moral desire?
    Desire .. based on morals?

    Quote Originally Posted by marknjas033 View Post
    No, but it isn't your responsibility after you give it up. In fact, it isn't any of your business after you give it up. Are you responsible for it morally? No. You gave it up. People need to stop getting so attached to things... it isn't a question of morality if you still care for its well being, it's greed or desire to have it back. In which case you shouldn't have given it up to begin with!
    You're exactly right when you say that you have no obligation or business or right to it once it leaves you. But you certainly have a right to determine whether or not to give it away or sell it based on what the buyer or acquirer is offering in good faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon184 View Post
    You're exactly right when you say that you have no obligation or business or right to it once it leaves you. But you certainly have a right to determine whether or not to give it away or sell it based on what the buyer or acquirer is offering in good faith.
    Agreed, I feel it is a "right" but certainly no moral imperative.

    Once I threw a gold fish down a toilet. Never thought twice. Never will. Probably did that to a few pet mice in my day too. Just wanted to add how I felt in on the discussion. I'm not big on morality, obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon184 View Post
    Just because you are offering a pet for free does not mean that you necessarily want it eaten by a snake.
    In the graphic above, they were actively hunting for a person who had asked for some of the freely offered "free kittens" to feed to his snake. The people refused - that should have been the end of it, BUT, these people are actively trying to find out who this person is.

    To what purpose do you think they are asking? To tell him they think he is doing OK? To ask if his snake has enough to eat? To try to retaliate for his asking for the free kittens? Which do YOU think is the more likely scenario?
    They say technology slows down for no one. I know it outruns my wallet. I figure its because my wallet isn't light enough yet.

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