We stole land from the indians

[Epidemic]

But no one disputes our claim to the USA.

Jews stole israel 3000 years ago then they got their ass kicked by romans, some back and forth with a new religion or two in conflict and then mass immingration and finally un mandate gave them their sovereignty again. all their neighbors attacked them and they kicked their asses in a couple of hours resulting in new territory.

Canada kicked the indians ass and out populated them eventually stealing the locals land from them.


China attacked Tibet and took over that sovereign country.


so since we all agree that all land is stolen from someone in a viscious cycle only settling down a bit in the 20th century to present.


Why is israel not able to put their capital back on land they acquired in battle?

[SoloCamo]

I don't recall us ever taking land from Indians?

[Theophylact]

Why is israel not able to put their capital back on land they acquired in battle?

Why wasn't Hitler allowed to keep France?

Just asking.

[Epidemic]

Why wasn't Hitler allowed to keep France?

Just asking.

If germany had won the war then he could have. But it is interesting when other countries get involved in conflicts.

In the case of israel other countries got involved and gave them legitimacy, but they also earned their land in battle.

[Theophylact]

I don't recall us ever taking land from Indians?

Are you kidding?

[Chuckiechan]

Actually, we took it from tribes of Indians. Indians were not one monolithic group with much in common except they were stone age people.

Besides, they pushed someone else off. And other tribes. It's the way it is, just like Mexico is taking over California one vote at a time.

[Theophylact]

So stealing retail rather than wholesale is the ticket to legitimacy. Now I know.

[The Real Bingo]

Our modern sensibilities don't allow conquering of land anymore. We do it by proxy now; "democratize" a nation to allow our corporations reap the benefits of the nation's resources. We don't actually occupy anymore in the strictest sense of the word.

[tony_j15]

Are you kidding?

Indians, no. Natives, yes. Hence the wink face.

Our modern sensibilities don't allow conquering of land anymore. We do it by proxy now; "democratize" a nation to allow our corporations reap the benefits of the nation's resources. We don't actually occupy anymore in the strictest sense of the word.

+1

[Theophylact]

Our modern sensibilities don't allow conquering of land anymore. We do it by proxy now; "democratize" a nation to allow our corporations reap the benefits of the nation's resources. We don't actually occupy anymore in the strictest sense of the word.

Except in places like, say, Iraq.

[GroundZero3]

Theo will all know that is a long term lease with the option to buy

[The Real Bingo]

Except in places like, say, Iraq.

Silly me. I thought we withdrew our combat troops and no longer deploy there.

[tony_j15]

Emphasis on "combat". There are still plenty of troops, and even more mercenaries.

[Epidemic]

according to 5,500 Mercenaries are in iraq right now not exactly an occupying force. a few hundred troops to protect the embassy and Trainers remain.

I think you can stop beating the drumb of occupation now. Geeze.

[tony_j15]

A beaten people whose government is bought does not require a large troop presence.

If you don't want to hear the "drumb" beat, just plug your ears and go back to grazing with the rest of the sheeple.

[The Real Bingo]

Back in the old days, we'd have planted our flag there and called Iraq our own little piece of paradise in the Middle East. Now we can't be so overt.

[Chuckiechan]

Emphasis on "combat". There are still plenty of troops, and even more mercenaries.

You only have Obama to blame for that!

The USA, as it expanded offered the Indians a chance to join as Americans, the offer is still out there for any Indian who wants to leave the reservation and become a normal Joe 6-pack...

Most Indian deaths came from diseases for which they had no immunity, so it was only a matter of time until the Russians populated Alaska and started moving south since England wasn't interested.