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    Study: 1.8 Million Dead People Still Registered To Vote

     
    How did we miss this?

    We've had a lot of discussion on voter ID and voter fraud . . . but I haven't seen this discussed yet.

    As the report states, it doesn't prove voter fraud, but it does raises questions about the systems vulnerabilities.

    Study: 1.8 Million Dead People Still Registered To Vote


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    There's little evidence that this has led to widespread voter fraud, but it has raised concerns that the system is vulnerable.
    Could that be because dead people don't vote? Just sayin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxmancometh View Post
    Ahhh! I have to claw my eyes out for reading from NPR!
    You should try it more often. Hell, you might learn something.


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    Could that be because dead people don't vote? Just sayin'



    Quote Originally Posted by sharder8 View Post

    As the report states, it doesn't prove voter fraud, but it does raises questions about the systems vulnerabilities.
    Excellent topic. TFTL.

    I would agree there are indeed some vulnerabilities that could be exploited here, but they could be easily controlled with a proper 21st century database. It seems death records and moving are not being properly accounted for, mostly because the states are not sharing the information.
    Good job, friend-of-friends!

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    Study: 1.8 Million Dead People Still Registered To Vote

    So? Dead people still get pre-approved applications for credit cards too.
    The real question is how many of them that end up voting (e.g. fraud)? The studies conclude it is infinitesimal. But that doesn't stop the GOP of changing the rules that will disenfranchise millions of legitimate voters in order to stop the hand full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Study: 1.8 Million Dead People Still Registered To Vote

    So? Dead people still get pre-approved applications for credit cards too.
    The real question is how many of them that end up voting (e.g. fraud)? The studies conclude it is infinitesimal. But that doesn't stop the GOP of changing the rules that will disenfranchise millions of legitimate voters in order to stop the hand full.
    I can't find studies showing voting fraud is inconsequential. I have seen lots of things that indicate the conviction rate is rather small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony_j15 View Post
    I would agree there are indeed some vulnerabilities that could be exploited here, but they could be easily controlled with a proper 21st century database. It seems death records and moving are not being properly accounted for, mostly because the states are not sharing the information.
    That part really hit me as well . . .

    You would think that the states would notify the previous state when they issue a drivers license to someone with another states lic. I know every time I've gotten a drivers lic. in the state I just moved to, they either take my previous states lic. or deface it and hand it back. I know each state also ran a records check with my previous state . . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    Study: 1.8 Million Dead People Still Registered To Vote

    So? Dead people still get pre-approved applications for credit cards too.
    The real question is how many of them that end up voting (e.g. fraud)? The studies conclude it is infinitesimal. But that doesn't stop the GOP of changing the rules that will disenfranchise millions of legitimate voters in order to stop the hand full.
    Like the story said MTA . . . there is a problem!

    While it doesn't PROVE voter fraud, it shows there is the potential for it. From the story, it kind of sounds like they specifically weren't looking for fraud . . . but rather, the potential for it and the under lying cause of those potential causes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by surreal View Post
    Could that be because dead people don't vote? Just sayin'
    I was thinking more along the lines of "legally they are NOT ALLOWED" to vote. But that is just me.
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    So fucking what? Lots of people die between elections, so they're still on the rolls. That doesn't mean they're voting.
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    Proly more Democratic Dead people than there are Republican dead people.

    You still have to sign the roll when you go to vote. If the Idiots checking the rolls let this go by they need to arrested and given a stiff sentence for letting this fraud go by.!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    Proly more Democratic Dead people than there are Republican dead people.
    Well, Democrats tend to die younger than Republicans because they're not as rich. Also, there are more Democrats than Republicans (they just tend not to vote as much, for a variety of reasons, including voter suppression). But we all do die eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theophylact View Post
    But we all do die eventually.
    But live on to Vote another Day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    I think what Theo and others are saying is, so? There doesn't seem to be any evidence that this is a big problem. In NY, if you don't vote in a certain number of elections you drop off the rolls. Whatever number are still on are there since the last election they voted before they automatically drop off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharder8 View Post
    As the report states, it doesn't prove voter fraud, but it does raises questions about the systems vulnerabilities.
    I think it would be great if the system were more efficient. Registering and tracking voters should be more intelligent and easier for voters.

    ... But how do dead people still being registered represent a "vulnerability"? Where's the vector for fraud here?

    It's not like you're planning a dinner party and this is a guest list. And you'll have too much payaya if some people don't show up. They're dead. Their existence on the list is inconsequential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1_vern View Post
    I was thinking more along the lines of "legally they are NOT ALLOWED" to vote. But that is just me.
    And would it matter if they were allowed to vote? I think not.
    If they did it'd make a great news story, I wonder who the dead people would vote for? Oh ya, the demons would be the conservatives... The angels are the liberals
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