'If four Americans get killed, it's not OPTIMAL'

[Taxmancometh]

President Barack Obama, during an interview shown on Comedy Central, has responded to a question about his administration's confused communication after the Benghazi attack, by saying: 'If four Americans get killed, it’s not optimal.'

Barack Obama on Benghazi: 'If four Americans get killed, it's not OPTIMAL': Obama's extraordinary response to security fiasco after Benghazi massacre | Mail Online

How many of you think that the families of the fallen will vote for Obama?

[Chuckiechan]

Obama has completely lost it and is crumbling under the strain of slow walking out of his office. Not that he like the job anyway. I always felt he "loved the life, but hated the job".

[Taxmancometh]

Mother of US official killed in Libya attack calls Obama's comment 'disrespectful' | Fox News

[Bizkitkid2001]

While sad, the mother in the link above does not seem to know what Obama said.

It's insensitive to say my son is not very 'optimal.'

That above is NOTHING at all closely related to what Obama said.

Both articles take Obama's answer out of context. He was repeating the word "optimal" as it was used in the question Obama was answering. Stewart was the one who used optimal first.

4 people dieing is NOT optimal. While optimal isn't a word that most people would use to describe a situation like this, it was in the original question and only being repeated.

What IS optimal would be ZERO deaths, ZERO injuries, or ZERO attacks. Anything more than that really is NOT optimal.

Adj. 1. optimal - most desirable possible under a restriction expressed or implied; "an optimum return on capital"; "optimal concentration of a drug"

The optimum outcome would have been the best case outcome, which in this case would have been no one getting killed.

Lets rephrase Obama's answer by using the definition of optimal, instead of the world optimal.

"If four Americans get killed, it's not the most desirable outcome."


Here is the question and answer in context:

Stewart said: "I would say and even you would admit it was not the optimal response -- at least to the American people as far as all of us being on the same page."

Obama, though, responded: "Here is what I will say -- if four Americans get killed, it is not optimal. And we are going to fix it." U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the strike.

[pickel]

While sad, the mother in the link above does not seem to know what Obama said.



That above is NOTHING at all closely related to what Obama said.

I wouldn't expect anything less from Taxman, Chuckie Cheeze and Fox news.

Biden: 'Romnesia' is contagious - POLITICO.com

[Chuckiechan]

That above is NOTHING at all closely related to what Obama said.

Obama should not have used the term at all on a comedy show. It sounds like he was playing into a schtick on "bureau-speak".

What a real president would have done would have said "A comedy show is not a venue to discuss the loss of American lives to a terrorist attack. Let's move on." But then Obama wouldn't get a laugh line, would he?

He's like the stupid dinner guest who shows his appendix scar at dinner because a six year old asked him to.

[Bizkitkid2001]

Obama should not have used the term at all on a comedy show. It sounds like he was playing into a schtick on "bureau-speak".

What a real president would have done would have said "A comedy show is not a venue to discuss the loss of American lives to a terrorist attack. Let's move on." But then Obama wouldn't get a laugh line, would he?

He's like the stupid dinner guest who shows his appendix scar at dinner because a six year old asked him to.

As I said, he was only REPEATING a word as used in the ORIGINAL question asked by JOHN STEWART.

Have you even watched the episode? In no way was Obama trying to crack a joke or get the audience to laugh. He wasn't even trying to get Stewart to laugh. The audience didn't laugh, Stewart didn't laugh, because Obama was NOT making a joke.

Let me ask you this.

Do you think four American deaths was optimal?

[Chuckiechan]

Let me ask you this.

Do you think four American deaths was optimal?

What a real president would have done would have said "A comedy show is not a venue to discuss the loss of American lives to a terrorist attack. Let's move on." But then Obama wouldn't get a laugh line, would he?

Obama is a dope.

[Bizkitkid2001]

What a real president would have done would have said "A comedy show is not a venue to discuss the loss of American lives to a terrorist attack. Let's move on." But then Obama wouldn't get a laugh line, would he?

Obama is a dope.

As I said, he wasn't trying to get a laugh nor did he get a laugh.

Where are you getting that he got a laugh? Have you actually watched the interview yourself?

[Chuckiechan]

As I said, he wasn't trying to get a laugh nor did he get a laugh.

Where are you getting that he got a laugh? Have you actually watched the interview yourself?

It's not about that. He is on a comedy show, and should "set the rules". "Don't ask me about shit like that here." should appeal to the demographic.

I saw a video of it.

Is he afraid to tell Jon Stewart, "No comment".

That is my point.

[pickel]

It's not about that. He is on a comedy show, and should "set the rules". "Don't ask me about shit like that here." should appeal to the demographic.

I saw a video of it.

Is he afraid to tell Jon Stewart, "No comment".

That is my point.

Well, Post the Video,Chuckie.

Maybe we need a new Forum.. "Chuckles with Chuckie"

Now that has a ring to it !!!! Don't you think ?????

[Chuckiechan]

Just for you Pick.

Video - President Barack Obama Makes 'Optimal' Comment to John Stewart - National US Headlines | Examiner.com

I love the way Stewart tee's up the questions to Obama.

As popular as this program is, it's a comedy show. There are some things that are not appropriate to discuss on a comedy show, and are best done in a regular news interview format.

It's just more undisciplined messaging from Obama with no teleprompter.

[pickel]

Chuck, I ,really , can't see your point. Stewart and Obombma were having a serious discussion about the event and was so far removed from the comedic part of the show.
You've been watching too much Hannity and Billy O , lately.
Why don't you tune into "Sex in the City" and relieve some of that pent up energy.

[Taxmancometh]

Sex and the city?? Are you referring to Chuck as a gay man?

[pickel]

Sex and the city?? Are you referring to Chuck as a gay man?

Say What

Those "Welding" fumes really must have gotten to your cerebral cortex ??? LOL

[Taxmancometh]

Any man that watches Sex and the city has to be gay or just a ladys man or something. Screw that shit! I'll watch Dirty jobs or Man vs. Wild.

[Chuckiechan]

Chuck, I ,really , can't see your point. Stewart and Obombma were having a serious discussion about the event and was so far removed from the comedic part of the show.

Would you expect him to be in a new conference/interview on CNN and start telling jokes.

You don't get it, Pickel. It's a difference in expectations of the president.

That's ok, my wife calls me Chuck. And no, I don't watch sex and the city. But I do like "The Good Wife", though...

[Bizkitkid2001]

Would you expect him to be in a new conference/interview on CNN and start telling jokes.

You don't get it, Pickel. It's a difference in expectations of the president.

That's ok, my wife calls me Chuck. And no, I don't watch sex and the city. But I do like "The Good Wife", though...

It may be different to YOUR expectations of the president, but YOUR expectations are different than somebody else's.

Stewart and Obama were having a serious discussion. It does not matter if the show is a satirical news show, the fact is Obama was NOT making a joke like YOU said he was. This isn't the first time Obama has been on The Tonight Show either, Obama has done several of these interviews with Stewart.

You still never answered my question. Do you think four American deaths was optimal?

[Chuckiechan]

Well, like I said in another post. America is changing. You and I have different expectations of presidents and country.

A perfect example: I know who George Mc Govern is, you don't.

I remember paying $1.99 a gallon for gasoline, you don't.

I would not have used the word "optimal", and I would not have discussed it on that show. Obama didn't have the balls to tell Stewart, "not here".

He doesn't see a problem with it and either do you. That is the problem for me.

[tony_j15]

Bizkit, you'll never get Chuck to straight up answer your question. I have tried repeatedly. He is a coward.
The thing is, if Obama had told Stewart "not here," Chuck and the rest of the Right around here would have jumped on it as proof of conspiracy.
You are attempting to debate based on logic and rationality, which is the right thing to do. But a fool who is a party hack blinded by hatred and ignorance simply will not understand it. That's exactly what you are seeing here.