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Old January 6th, 2005, 03:13 AM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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How do I set up FAD on a machine that has no connection to the internet? I guess more to the point, how do I get jobs onto and from that machine so I can crunch then upload the results?

This would also apply to a work machine that I don't want accessing the internet to upload the info. No need to have someone question the usage of a work computer as being non-business related.
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Old January 6th, 2005, 04:44 AM     #2 (permalink)
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Never mind, I think I figured it out. Now to see how many work computers I can get set up.
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Old January 6th, 2005, 02:07 PM     #3 (permalink)
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If you can find it, there was a thread which you might find relevant here about two weeks ago as I recall...somebody got into problems cos they deleted job from the main server queue once they had copied them over to the standalone...or something like that...
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Old January 6th, 2005, 02:13 PM     #4 (permalink)
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This would also apply to a work machine that I don't want accessing the internet to upload the info. No need to have someone question the usage of a work computer as being non-business related.

I'm not really familar with Fad but don't you have to install the client to run the Wu's?? If there is an issue with getting into trouble over having the pc connect to the internet just to upload/dl wu's then I'd think they'd have an issue with outside apps running on the pc to begin with. Might be careful what your installing there I know I'd be PO'ed if one of my employees did something like that w/o my permission.

Just a thought tho
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Old January 6th, 2005, 02:31 PM     #5 (permalink)
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...I know I'd be PO'ed if one of my employees did something like that w/o my permission...Just a thought tho

Oooops ! I didn't read that second paragraph in the original post carefully enough ! Thanks for picking it up! That's more than just a thought, that is vitally important...people have lost their jobs through running DC programmes on their employer's machines without proper written permission. OK if your employer is Dad maybe, but definitely not in any other cases...
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Old January 6th, 2005, 02:53 PM     #6 (permalink)
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I'm not really familar with Fad but don't you have to install the client to run the Wu's?? If there is an issue with getting into trouble over having the pc connect to the internet just to upload/dl wu's then I'd think they'd have an issue with outside apps running on the pc to begin with. Might be careful what your installing there I know I'd be PO'ed if one of my employees did something like that w/o my permission.

Just a thought tho

I know there is a risk involved and I guess I could have my butt handed to me in no uncertain terms. However, and this doesn't make it right, but I don't know of anyone who doesn't have some sort of outside/downloaded program on their computer. And oh yes there is a written policy against ANY program (freeware or purchased) not being installed without permission. In some cases, there are programs that I have downloaded that make my job easier and others, that have increased my knowledge indirectly. Again right, no, but it is in no way affecting how I do my job nor is it taking time away from me doing my job and effectively it is not taking away from company resources since I'm not accessing the internet nor the intranet to run the program.
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Old January 6th, 2005, 03:49 PM     #7 (permalink)
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Hope I didn't upset you in any way, Oh Red Rubber Hotpanted One ! 'Twas only meant as a friendly reminder...
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..... And oh yes there is a written policy against ANY program (freeware or purchased) not being installed without permission. In some cases, there are programs that I have downloaded that make my job easier and others, that have increased my knowledge indirectly. Again right, no, but it is in no way affecting how I do my job nor is it taking time away from me doing my job and effectively it is not taking away from company resources since I'm not accessing the internet nor the intranet to run the program.

Downloading/installing any programs against company policy is wrong no matter how you slice it. Wrong is wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right.

As a former computer security manager I would have you canned in a flash. If you had openly stated this type of opinion, it would tell me you have no sense of responsibility toward our assests. Furthermore, you say it costs us nothing in the way of resources; Guess again, mis-informed one.

It comes down to this.....our computers are our resources.

If you came to me first with a proposal to do this and you could show me that it would not jepordize our systems I might listen......then it would be my decision,
no harm no foul.


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excuzzzeme we are on the exact same train of thought here. Basically here is my look on this deal. First off I don't know what type of co you work for but most co. have personal private and most of the time very valuable info on their systems/networks.

For me I see you coming into my office with burn-able media or I see you dl'ing software:
1. I have no idea what you have on that disk good or bad
2. I have no idea what your intentions are
3. I have no idea how secure your computer is nor do I know of the possibility of virus/trojans ect being attached to your disk. Very big security no no introducing un-secure outside media to my systems
4. You haven't given me the option to say yes or no

your basic argument as posted here is everyone else is already doing I'm already doing it so why not one more app. Not for this to sound extremely rude but if that was the attitude in my office there would be alot more people in need of jobs.

Now on the flip side, I'd have no problems with employee's coming to me with a dc project or a piece of software that help increase productivity. But dl'ing it or installing it w/o my knowledge or permission wouldn't be a good idea. Liability factors alone would be tremendous.

IMO the risk of getting into trouble doesn't out weight the rewards of a better DC standing You're the one dealing with the possible consequences so if you feel the reward is great enough then I say go for it. Like I said it all IMHO.
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Old January 6th, 2005, 08:24 PM     #10 (permalink)
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excuzzzeme and RicheemxX are both right. Since I'm not trying to improve my FAD score intentionally (my existing scores are for my own machines and one I do have permission to use) I'm going to discontinue use of FAD on my work PC. Of course that doesn't go for the other software myself and the many others within the company have. I do think however, that this subject of downloading/installing outside software warrants further discussion and would like to open another thread on it. I don't think the FAD forum is the place, does anyone have a suggestion?
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