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Old November 20th, 2008, 11:23 PM     #11 (permalink)
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yes i am on your team, just havent been folding in a while, cant afford the electric right now. I do plan to get back to folding again here in the near future. Yes i am aware that its not a video card and why in the world would you even consider that card in XP if XP can only recognise 4GB of memory in the first place?
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Old November 20th, 2008, 11:38 PM     #12 (permalink)
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good to hear you are on the Team. I only quoted that because it caught my eye.
and for the record I am not even considering buying one as the price is just a little out of my league.
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Old November 20th, 2008, 11:39 PM     #13 (permalink)
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i was doing that as a general reference. nVidia = Overpriced and lousy drivers.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 01:15 AM     #14 (permalink)
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Yeah, that Tesla card's been out for a while now, though one of the new ones should be coming out soon I read somewhere.

The Rackmount Tesla Servers are even more powerful, run at faster clocked speeds & have at least 2 cards per server, each I think is well over a TeraFlop, but their only clocked higher since it is a rackmount based server & usually have better cooling setups /air conditioning type units etc etc than a standard single card will.

the hardware is the same in the Servers & the Cards, but the cards are downclocked (neutered so to speak), due to cooling restrictions because of the design.


been looking at the Tesla servers & cards for quite some time now.

along with the QuadroPlex systems...

available in 2 styles.

NVIDIA Quadro Plex VCS – Advanced visualization and remote graphics



on the bright side the Tesla cards are probably cheaper than their Quadro FX counterparts...


but imagine this in your rig?

Quadro Plex 2100 D4

one of those has 2 9800GX2 based Quadro's, and from what I remember reading about these things is they can run SLI on a main system, so technically though its using 2 daughter cards in the PCIE slots on the host systems Mobo, its technically an 8 way SLI system (Quadro FX 4700x2/Geforce 9800GX2 x2 + 2 QuadroPlex systems, equals 8 G92 8800GTS/9800GTX level chips, but with a hell of a lot more RAM LOL 8GB total Video memory in an SLI setup )


on a Related note, not to single ATI out of the equation...

AMD FireStream 9170 Workstation Video Card - PCIe 2.0 x16, 2GB GDDR3, STREAM Computing GPU 100-505550 at TigerDirect.com

add in they had these types of cards on the market for years now long before nvidia did.

BUT they include an output to connect a display unlike Nvidia's Tesla cards, so you can use it by itself & not need a Radeon or FireGL card to run along side it, also unlike Nvidia's solution.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 01:50 AM     #15 (permalink)
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see that AMD one is more realistic in its feasability and more flexability than the nVidia one.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 03:40 AM     #16 (permalink)
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 04:24 AM     #17 (permalink)
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Nah, one of these...

Newegg.com - Intel BOXD5400XS Dual LGA 771 Intel 5400(Skulltrail) Extended ATX Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

2 of these... Newegg.com - Intel Xeon L5420 Harpertown 2.5GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 771 50W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Servers

and a couple of 9800GX2's, & maybe 2 Radeon 4870's (single slot cards that will fit in those last 2 PCIE slots) for the other two slots for folding along with the 2 9800GX2's


on your post above, forget that board, grab this one instead... $60

Newegg.com - TYAN S2912G2NR Dual 1207(F) NVIDIA nForce Professional 3600 Extended ATX Server Motherboard - Server Motherboards

damn, half tempted to grab one myself here, & just grab some Socket F Dual or Quads down the road if I can, throw in a couple cheap 8800GS or 9600 cards when I can too...
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 04:34 AM     #18 (permalink)
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nice little board, would be good for some massive storage space.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 11:35 AM     #19 (permalink)
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I don't know what you boys are talking about, right now with folding GPU2 clients are the king.

I have 5 quad core Q66009 and none of them are dedicated folders. My daily output are coming out of 3 dual pci-e slotted mobo , all three have dual video cards. That is only six (6) 8800gs/9600gso combo. Each pumping out 4750ppd each. The ppd might change when Stanford change the point system but more core does not equate to more production for now.
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Old November 22nd, 2008, 03:01 PM     #20 (permalink)
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yeah I know, notice my comment about adding in the 4 cards for the Skulltrail board?

but when it comes to DC projects like R@H, WCG, Dnet, SETI, etc etc etc, many of those don't have GPU clients, so in those cases 2 or more Quad cores will be more useful.

thats why I suggested the other Socket F board, it loses 2 Quads but replaces with 2 PCI-E slots for Vid cards. add in the $60 price, can't be beat really. Geeks.com has a couple "older" Socket F Quads for $178 each, same clocks as the one Fizur posted, 2.3GHz, grabbing 2 of those, the mobo, & 1 or 2 9600GSO/GT Recertified cards for about $60 a piece...

just on the core hardware itself, thats $536 right there. another $80-90 nets you 2x (2xGB) DDR2-400 Registered RAM for 2GB Dual Channel per Quad. grab good size PSU for servers. EATX designed Case, & decent sized HDD & Optical drive, & of course an OS, all which can be had for relatively cheap, maybe the case & PSU being the most expensive, the rest is change in the pocket for costs.

gets you a far more powerful setup than is capable on the Quad Socket F board...


Now What I'd like to see is someone (with the money to burn, I'll do it if I win the lottery ) adapt the nVidia Quadroplex deskside systems, 2 can be run in SLI on an SLI Compatible Mobo, for a total of 4 cards... or in the case of using the Quadro FX 4700X2 cards (basically 2 8800GT equivalent Quadro Cards in a similar form factor to the old 7950GX2), they can have 2 of those per Quadroplex... two of those can run SLI...

but forget the SLI, run each seperate on something like the Intel Socket 771 Skulltrail board, Dual Quads, 4 PCIE 16X slots (assuming the daughter cards the Quadroplex's use aren't more than 1 slot wide).

2 Quadro 4700X2's in each, 4 Quadroplex's connected to the board....

[ (2 8800GT G92 equivalent GPU's per card) x (2 cards per Quadroplex) ] x 4 Quadroplex's = 16 8800GT equivalent Quadro GPU's running for Folding@Home... "in a single system" (plus the Dual Quads on the mobo running at 3+GHz stock)


LOL


but even then, after calculating in the price of all that hardware, $10K+ for the entry level Quadroplex deskside set up... x4 about 2 grand or more for the CPU's. several Hundred for the RAM, OS, HDD's, case & cooling setups...

it'd be cheaper to buy a couple or few Rackmount Tesla Servers, which would almost double what that Dual Quad core, Quad Quadroplex Quad SLI Build (Quad SLI on each plex, but all running seperately) would generate in results easily, at least...
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