[F@H SPAM 05 JUL 09]For Newd Blackberries sake

**Nude_Lewd_Man** · July 12th, 2009, 10:44 AM

Do you know which version the CPU clients are..? What happens with your processor usage when you have clicked on the EXE/s...?

**Bizkitkid2001** · July 12th, 2009, 10:45 AM

Well crap, the day after I leave for vacation the stupid client expires. Even if the power hadn't shut down, I still wouldn't have been able to crunch WUs.

Thanks 2monster.

**Bizkitkid2001** · July 12th, 2009, 10:48 AM

That was such an easy fix! Thank you 2monster!

Got the programs working again in less than 20 seconds.

**engracio** · July 12th, 2009, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Bizkitkid2001

Well crap, the day after I leave for vacation the stupid client expires. Even if the power hadn't shut down, I still wouldn't have been able to crunch WUs.

Thanks 2monster.

You would have been still able to crunch until the power outage. The client is made to continue crunching until the next reboot/startup.

@nude

As far as I know the client is the same 6.23 except the internal expiration date is extended to 2010. The old client expired 4 july 2009. Stanford say they are still working on the next version, TBA , the 6.23 is good enough for now.

**KarmaKiller** · July 12th, 2009, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by Nude_Lewd_Man

Oooh, that reminds me.... Better pack up that PSU for KK....

I'll get it shipped out tomorrow..!

Thanks man!

MAEN crew. Got to sleep in today!

**Nude_Lewd_Man** · July 12th, 2009, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by engracio

@nude

As far as I know the client is the same 6.23 except the internal expiration date is extended to 2010. The old client expired 4 july 2009. Stanford say they are still working on the next version, TBA , the 6.23 is good enough for now.

That could explain my sudden drop in the PPD then....

**engracio** · July 12th, 2009, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by KarmaKiller

Thanks man!

MAEN crew. Got to sleep in today!

Sorry Killer, no go on that HSF, matter of fact might have to do a Tiya S on one of the hsf. Making weird noises and thinking the ball bearing might be going.

@Tiya S

Working on the Gigabyte GA-P35DS3L mobo and noticed that whenever I reboot or shutdowm/start the box, the case fan and other fans would come on right away but the HSF would wait a few seconds before it would start spinning. I remember that cuz the first time I build a box from this mobo I alway make sure the HSF is spinning before going on. Hard experience from AMD cpu where it only took 3 seconds to fry a no fan cpu.

Ask me how do I know.

Guess technology has advanced to where it is difficult to fry a cpu nowadays. Then again we always have our hero Karmakiller.

Glad you got some zzzzzzz's brother man.

**2monsters** · July 12th, 2009, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by engracio

Sorry Killer, no go on that HSF, matter of fact might have to do a Tiya S on one of the hsf. Making weird noises and thinking the ball bearing might be going.

@Tiya S

Working on the Gigabyte GA-P35DS3L mobo and noticed that whenever I reboot or shutdowm/start the box, the case fan and other fans would come on right away but the HSF would wait a few seconds before it would start spinning. I remember that cuz the first time I build a box from this mobo I alway make sure the HSF is spinning before going on. Hard experience from AMD cpu where it only took 3 seconds to fry a no fan cpu.

Ask me how do I know.

Guess technology has advanced to where it is difficult to fry a cpu nowadays. Then again we always have our hero Karmakiller.

Glad you got some zzzzzzz's brother man.

I have some spare stock hsf laying around collecting dust. Let me know. They are all brand new never used.

**KarmaKiller** · July 12th, 2009, 12:40 PM

Hey hey hey.. I still haven't killed a CPU thank you!

**engracio** · July 12th, 2009, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by KarmaKiller

Hey hey hey.. I still haven't killed a CPU thank you!

You are still youngin, give it a chance, or maybe not. They have stepping on the cpu's now. Try the OLD cpu's, see how long they last without a fan.

They even leave a brown stain on the ceramic to confirm you'd done fudge up.

@2monsters
Nah, got the same stock cpu hsf too. Actually throwing away the dinky littles ones. Keeping the quad stock hsf cuz they be bigger.

**nunyadam** · July 12th, 2009, 01:18 PM

Hate to say this, but I just did a full and complete wipe of F@H from my system.

**surreal** · July 12th, 2009, 01:31 PM

Intentionally or accidentally??

Originally Posted by engracio

Sorry Killer, no go on that HSF, matter of fact might have to do a Tiya S on one of the hsf. Making weird noises and thinking the ball bearing might be going.

@Tiya S

Working on the Gigabyte GA-P35DS3L mobo and noticed that whenever I reboot or shutdowm/start the box, the case fan and other fans would come on right away but the HSF would wait a few seconds before it would start spinning. I remember that cuz the first time I build a box from this mobo I alway make sure the HSF is spinning before going on. Hard experience from AMD cpu where it only took 3 seconds to fry a no fan cpu.

Ask me how do I know.

Guess technology has advanced to where it is difficult to fry a cpu nowadays. Then again we always have our hero Karmakiller.

Glad you got some zzzzzzz's brother man.

I never did get the power on the board for the mobo fan to work, I just plugged in in elsewhere. But it was on long enough to start because I had it running a bit with the side off of the case watching it get hotter and hotter. I finally shut it down on the edge of burnt toast...

no hs fan action to be found...

I just looked at the points again and I can't tell if it sent or not, but for 3 days it doesn't seem like much... I hope it didn't mess up again.

**nunyadam** · July 12th, 2009, 01:48 PM

It was Intentional. and successful. Just as successful as the re-install finally was for the SMP client.

Damn -SMP Flag!!!

Full speed ahead SMP running @100% core usage.

GPU to follow.

**KarmaKiller** · July 12th, 2009, 02:27 PM

About time!

**Flying JJ** · July 12th, 2009, 02:38 PM

smp seems to be running good for me too. No crashes or blips in a few days. I have 1 instance running, it is using about 50% cpu. When I try to run a second instance, any little blip or shutting it down ( Ctrl+C or power loss ) seems to corrupt the work files on both instances. This will happen even if I shut 1 down, the one still running will corrupt and say work files missing. Any hints or suggestions? Right now running 1 smp and can run 3-4 instances of the console client no problems, want to run 2 smp though = more ppd.

Thanks again KK for helping w/ the first one.

**KarmaKiller** · July 12th, 2009, 02:55 PM

I really don't know why it does that, but I have a hunch.
Basically, you know how you have your GPU's set, as "-gpu 0" "gpu 1" etc? I'm thinking you need something similar to that for you multiple CPU clients.
I dunno how to go about it, and tbh I've never personally set up SMP on a CPU that needed it, but I'm thinking these I7's need it.
Maybe that'll give you something to look into.

**engracio** · July 12th, 2009, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by surreal

Intentionally or accidentally??

I never did get the power on the board for the mobo fan to work, I just plugged in in elsewhere. But it was on long enough to start because I had it running a bit with the side off of the case watching it get hotter and hotter. I finally shut it down on the edge of burnt toast...

no hs fan action to be found...

I just looked at the points again and I can't tell if it sent or not, but for 3 days it doesn't seem like much... I hope it didn't mess up again.

Ahh, I see said the blind man. Just weird the hsf going, anyhoo as long as its crunching. Its easy to doubt yourself at times with folding. Thinking something is wrong when in actuality the stats server is borked again or they are sending out borked wu. Patience at times works for folding but what a waste of time and cpu cycles.

**nunyadam** · July 12th, 2009, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Flying JJ

smp seems to be running good for me too. No crashes or blips in a few days. I have 1 instance running, it is using about 50% cpu. When I try to run a second instance, any little blip or shutting it down ( Ctrl+C or power loss ) seems to corrupt the work files on both instances. This will happen even if I shut 1 down, the one still running will corrupt and say work files missing. Any hints or suggestions? Right now running 1 smp and can run 3-4 instances of the console client no problems, want to run 2 smp though = more ppd.

Thanks again KK for helping w/ the first one.

SMP should use 100% of your cpu. I suspect you are missing the -SMP argument in your start up.
right click on the shortcut you use to start folding, click on properties. your target line should read something like this. "C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\Folding@home-Win32-x86.exe" -smp

If you don't have the -smp flag on the end just add it. (one space after the right hand ", then the -smp)

**KarmaKiller** · July 12th, 2009, 03:30 PM

That's not the issue nunya, he does have the SMP flag. I know.

It's a deal with the I7 and hyperthreading. I believe the SMP will only see 4 cores, or 2 with hyperthreading on, and I *think* that's the issue.
I don't have a lot of time to research it today, but I'll be looking into that this week for the guide I'm gonna be throwing together.

**Flying JJ** · July 12th, 2009, 04:10 PM

I do think it is i7 specific. I was reading somewhere in the EVGA forums that you can run 4 smp instances. You set them up just like the gpu's but use -cpu 1 + -cpu 5 and so on paring a physical and virtual core. I have spent a few hours searching for the thread and gave up. does anyone realize how many threads have cpu in them?

I can not remember where in the config. you put it and exactly how to "spell" it with spaces here and there. Each core will take 12.5% cpu usage, so each instance will be 25%, run 3 for 75% and you will still have some left so you can play around on the thing.