Cs Lag (Need some opinions)

**MMock** · March 9th, 2002, 12:48 AM

Ok my friend has a 400 celeron with a voodoo 3 3000 pci. When he is on some maps he lags. He has 320mb of sdram. Do you think it is just time to upgrade to a different computer or shoud\ld a 400 celeron with these specs run cs good enough? The maps he lags on are storm and chateu

**jkrohn** · March 9th, 2002, 01:17 AM

The reason he lags is that he needs a better CPU / graphics card and a new viceo card wouldn't hurt.

I bet he lags on Survior as well as any jeep maps probably as well. The technical reason for this is becasue CS pro-loads every texture on teh map, not just the ones in sight, so when you get on those really big detailed maps it really bogs your computer down like mad.

Jkrohn

**jkrohn** · March 9th, 2002, 01:30 AM

oops, won't let me delete.

**Chooco** · March 9th, 2002, 04:38 AM

dude that computer totaly hurts. didn't you see the benchmarks of how much Celerons suck @$$?

**TOAD6147** · March 9th, 2002, 08:01 AM

And what about a PIII 500 with a TNT2 Ultra lagging in Unreal? Does "...that computer totaly hurts.." too, Dude?

**Chooco** · March 9th, 2002, 08:07 AM

how fast was the TNT2? if ya give me a memory rating on it i could probably ball park it.

**TOAD6147** · March 9th, 2002, 08:36 AM

...how fast was the TNT2?

Expressed in what, fps,...?

**Ace McGirk** · March 9th, 2002, 11:33 AM

MMock,
What resolution is he running?
Try a lower one,Also on one of the menus there is a setting for"decals" set it low,aka 50, or to 0.
Turn off "high quality" models,turn off "high quality" sound
Try the "WickedGL" drivers,search google for "wickedGL".
Make sure he runs the 3dfxGL drivers(in the game menu) not the default ones

Also there are console/cfg commands to turn off ingame downloads (sprays and such)and uploads(your custom spray)

**GroundZero3** · March 9th, 2002, 11:35 AM

mmock my brother is running almost the same setup except his voodo is a an AGp card. and it take some time for him to load up games. but when in atuaclly game time he doesn't really experience lag unless there is a lag spike of some sort

**MMock** · March 9th, 2002, 01:36 PM

See at one time I don't think he exsperienced lag at all! But now he gets it more often then ever! The Poor guy is trying to get a loan for a new pc but I dont think it is gonna happen. I got a 533 sitting around collecting dust do you think this would be much better?

**Ace McGirk** · March 9th, 2002, 05:10 PM

If he wants a quick fix...get a new video card

I play Half Life against a few guys who have slow (500mhz) machines and they kick butt,but they all at least have a g-force 256(first g-force),these cards take a lot of load off of the cpu

**^hyd^** · March 9th, 2002, 05:20 PM

What OS is he running? I had a friend who tried CS on windows ME and it took at least two tries to connect to any game, every time!! He reinstalled 98 and hasn't had a problem since...

I have 98se, P3 500, 256MB, diamond viper 2 32mb w/cable connection and it holds fine for me! In heavy action framerates can drop to 20ish but it's never effected my playing, rates might get low, but never gets choppy for me. When walking/running around I usually hold 50-60 which IMO is fine...

oh, thats at 800x600 btw...

g'luck!

**GroundZero3** · March 9th, 2002, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by MMock
See at one time I don't think he exsperienced lag at all! But now he gets it more often then ever! The Poor guy is trying to get a loan for a new pc but I dont think it is gonna happen. I got a 533 sitting around collecting dust do you think this would be much better?

what type of internet connection does he have?

**MMock** · March 9th, 2002, 07:19 PM

We both got a killer cable connection of 1mb down and 128up! I know it isn't charter mst of time!

**GroundZero3** · March 9th, 2002, 07:30 PM

when he lags does everyone else or just him?

**tahall** · March 14th, 2002, 03:32 PM

Best bet is to invest in a Good vid card w/a decent amount of on-board memory. Increasing system memory helps loads too, especially since system memory is so cheap.

To really test your system, run UT with Second Space Beacon. Its huge when outside and can hurt even a decent machine.

LaserBait

**^hyd^** · March 14th, 2002, 07:56 PM

We both got a killer cable connection

Are you two sharing off of one cable modem? If so, is there any file-sharing apps running on either computer when lag is experienced? I noticed a ping jump of about 400-500ms

in CS when my roomate had morpheus going with sharing enabled!! As soon as one or two people started dnlding from him it would completely kill my ping!! Normally I hold around 70 - 90ms!! Then, when the roomies comp is shutdown or sharing is disabled, my ping returns to normal...

just a thought... something to look into...

cyas!

**eagle1** · March 14th, 2002, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by Ace McGirk
If he wants a quick fix...get a new video card

I play Half Life against a few guys who have slow (500mhz) machines and they kick butt,but they all at least have a g-force 256(first g-force),these cards take a lot of load off of the cpu

Best bet is to invest in a Good vid card w/a decent amount of on-board memory. Increasing system memory helps loads too, especially since system memory is so
cheap.

To really test your system, run UT with Second Space Beacon. Its huge when outside and can hurt even a decent machine.

LaserBait

I don't think a new video card will do him any good because most newer cards perform well if they are paired with fast cpus and his old celeron wont do any good! I think the Voodoo is the best he can do for the moment!

I would suggest the WickedGL drivers already mentioned or lowering the resolution!