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Old May 10th, 2008, 02:12 AM     #11 (permalink)
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Hows your PSU... not sure what the 9600GT runs or requires, but almost certain the 8800GT is more than the old 7900GS.

but depending on what your PSU is...

This is what I'd get with your budget...

GPU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...445&CatId=3670

OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116204

Though not sure if the CPU would really be holding you back, doubt it, at least if it is, its not that much....

but for $270 on a newer 9800GTX, you really can't go wrong with that. also $90 on Vista 64-bit Premium either, plus its a full install DVD. If I remember right the OEM stuff your "Supposed" to buy some hardware with it, if that is still the case, just throw on a cheapy expansion card like a USB card Or USB drive/stick or something...


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Old May 10th, 2008, 03:29 AM     #12 (permalink)
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Hows your PSU... not sure what the 9600GT runs or requires, but almost certain the 8800GT is more than the old 7900GS.

but depending on what your PSU is...

This is what I'd get with your budget...

GPU: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...445&CatId=3670

OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116204

Though not sure if the CPU would really be holding you back, doubt it, at least if it is, its not that much....

but for $270 on a newer 9800GTX, you really can't go wrong with that. also $90 on Vista 64-bit Premium either, plus its a full install DVD. If I remember right the OEM stuff your "Supposed" to buy some hardware with it, if that is still the case, just throw on a cheapy expansion card like a USB card Or USB drive/stick or something...
My PSU is a Antec Truepower Trio 550 Watt
cpu is a 6400 dual core,
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Old May 10th, 2008, 10:22 AM     #13 (permalink)
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I think they run on an honesty policy, that you are a system builder buying this, but you don't actually have to prove it. I don't think you have to buy anything with it, but you can always get your GPU at the same place if you want.

I don't think your CPU will be bottlenecking at all so you could get a GX2 if you want (lol).

This is what I found on your PSU:
+12V1 - 18A
+12V2 - 18A
+12A3 - 18A

Now what I don't know is if you add them together or only count one. This is the part that confuses me about PSUs. I'm not sure but I think the 9600GT needs 26A.

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Old May 10th, 2008, 02:54 PM     #14 (permalink)
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I think they run on an honesty policy, that you are a system builder buying this, but you don't actually have to prove it. I don't think you have to buy anything with it, but you can always get your GPU at the same place if you want.

I don't think your CPU will be bottlenecking at all so you could get a GX2 if you want (lol).

This is what I found on your PSU:
+12V1 - 18A
+12V2 - 18A
+12A3 - 18A

Now what I don't know is if you add them together or only count one. This is the part that confuses me about PSUs. I'm not sure but I think the 9600GT needs 26A.
That sounds like fiction to me, 26a is that some power output or something? also where is the specs needed for the 9600 card?
I couldent find anything online about what power it required.
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Old May 10th, 2008, 02:58 PM     #15 (permalink)
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The 26A is a number I got from a post on a forum but it is all I could find so of course take that with a grain of salt.

edit: I found the the required amps for the 9800GTX, so that should give us a guesstimate for the 9600. The 9800GTX needs 24A, or 30A in SLI.

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Old May 10th, 2008, 06:53 PM     #16 (permalink)
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The 26A is a number I got from a post on a forum but it is all I could find so of course take that with a grain of salt.

edit: I found the the required amps for the 9800GTX, so that should give us a guesstimate for the 9600. The 9800GTX needs 24A, or 30A in SLI.
So, does that mean i would need a new PSU as well?
I got this one not too long ago, and it is an antec witch i was recomended from here, and i thought they would be good with any card pretty much.
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Old May 10th, 2008, 06:56 PM     #17 (permalink)
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I don't know enough to judge your PSU as I'm not sure if you add the three rails together to 54A (I doubt this) or count it as 18A.

edit: does the 9600 require two PCI-e PSU connectors? If so wouldn't they use different rails?
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Short answer... your PSU is fine
You wont need anything higher unless you added multiple hard drives or another viseo card for SLI

FYI... you can do a normal clean install using an "upgrade" version OS disk
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Old May 10th, 2008, 07:39 PM     #19 (permalink)
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For the furtherment of my own knowledge, would you mind telling me why it is fine? PSUs are my weakest area.
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Old May 10th, 2008, 08:00 PM     #20 (permalink)
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Its an Antec Brand (quality), & there's more than enough amps to provide power to the vid card. (in a way you do combine the 3 rails, but it doesn't really come out to 18A x 3 = 54Amps, its usually less than the total... I think JP has a link or two that explains it better though)

As to the OEM, It used to be that you used to have to buy some major hardware components with the OEM disks, as I remember reading that the OEM versions of OS's were "tied" to that system & supposed to be non transferable to other systems, but that was something I read years ago...

But I think retailers had been letting that slide for years, as I remember reading & others telling me they've bought a simple PS/2 to USB adapter for a keyboard/mouse, with an OEM copy & was ok...

but anyways, a system builder also isn't exclusively like some name brand or aftermarket company, but there are thousands of Private system builders who do it for their own small business they run...

but, as to the GPU getting it at the same place, yes he could, but he'd be smart to do some comparison shopping at other sites as well, rather than everything at newegg... which was the reason I posted the one deal at Tigerdirect for the GTX...

And JP is right about the Clean install of the OS from an upgrade version... up until my purchase of WinXP Media Center Edition 2005 last year (OEM System Builders disk), thats all I've done (upgrade from a prior upgrade version), from Windows 3.11 to WinXP Home... Win 3.11 was just about the only full version I'd ever had, Win95b was an upgrade version, so was Win98, Win98SE, & WinME, then was WinXP Home (bought a 2nd copy of Home, & used a seperate Win9x upgrade disk as proof of purchase/ownership of prior OS to install with), I had a couple full OEM copies of Win98 & 98SE as well as Win2000 (snagged some sweet cheap deals on various forums over the years), but those were used soley for a couple of number crunchers for Distributed Computing projects.


but anyways, yes you can do a full clean install from an Upgrade version, just about the only difference between those & the Full versions is usually they require you to provide a prior version as proof that you can upgrade & install a full version anyways... in either case, you do a full install no matter what, or should/can do one...

but with a full version of the OS, at a deal like that, $90, its really worth it to just buy that & just go ahead & install it, with out having to dig around for a prior version, you'll normally spend about the same on an upgrade version anyways, which is why its such a good deal.
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