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    LOL, Linux has had Several "Killer" games for the past half decade and has yet to Explode.

    Crysis was one, several Unreal Tournament Games, and numerous other titles, and still has yet to "explode".


    Sorry to say, it will take more than ONE killer game to make the change.

    SteamOS may just be the break they need, a dedicated Gamers Linux Distro, that may finally break the Windows Mold and make it a viable alternative, as well as a free one at that, but its going to take more than just one game.



    Its more than just games that need to be supported on Linux, what they need is a much easier transition from Windows and Mac OS's to Linux.

    Sure we have some that are like the others, but when it comes down to it, many still need to know "complex" linux commands and procedures as well as terminology to really take advantage and control of the OS, something that really isn't needed for Windows or Mac OS.

    I'll admit, I'm one of those people, its one of the reasons why I haven't delved too much into Linux over the years.

    I grew up with Apple OS's (Pre Mac OSX)and MS DOS, as well as Windows, so making the transition over to linux isn't as straight forward as one would think, different terminology, cryptic command structure, etc, etc, in comparison.

    Some newer versions like Ubuntu and various other spin offs, etc, have made basic use possible, but you still need to "know what your doing" to really take advantage of the OS and its capabilities.

    Its not as simple in many cases as to download a program, install it, and run it, as it is in windows many times.

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    Linus comments on SteamOS....

    Torvalds: SteamOS Will 'Really Help' Linux On the Desktop - Slashdot
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    he Linux creator praised Valve's 'vision' and suggested its momentum would force other manufacturers to take Linux seriously especially if game developers start to ditch Windows.
    >>1.25 billion Windows PCs in the wild.
    >>Microsoft provides DirectX and development support
    >>Only 2.5 - 65 million Linux PCs (some which dual boot Windows)
    >>most popular flavor of GNU/Linux is Android. (295 million units sold)

    Keep on dreaming, Torvalds.

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    The Creative Assembly seems impressed, and plans to port Total War: Rome II for Linux+SteamOS.

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    Im excited to see what this brings but I realize that EA will never give up origins

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    Hopefully this is not id Software's position on future Linux/SteamOS ports....

    GamingOnLinux - ID Software Moving Further Away From Linux, QuakeLive Going Native
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    This is after their most recent game Rage not getting a Linux client at all.
    LOL, yeah, because Rage even worked properly under windows...

    Id's under Bethesda Softworks and Zenimax now anyways, I'm sure if they wanted to, they could put some pressure on Id to change their stance, or develop a new version for Linux at some point.

    But as to Rage, the game is full of bugs for Windows that has never been fixed or addressed. The game has been out for a couple years already, and the quality of it just sucks. Texture resolutions in game suck, there's all kinds of bugs that cause the game to lock up, crash, even hard lock the PC.

    Bought the Steam version a few months back, and its still not fixed, I got about a half hour into the game, and just started to get into some action, and right away, the game locks up on my system. After reading about some of the issues, many have never been addressed or fixed.



    I'd hate to even see a Linux version.



    With that said, oh well, not like Id has REALLY been trying as of late with some games.

    Still no Doom 4 (Doom 3 was 10 years ago already), Or any really new Quake game (Story based one, not since Quake 4, 9 years ago, and to be honest, they themselves haven't actually done anything with Quake since Quake 3 Arena, Raven software made Quake 4, with help from Id)

    Sadly, Id is a relic from the past, would be nice to see something new from them, of their own work, but not a big issue anymore.

    So if they're not going to be on linux any time soon, not a big loss. IMO anyways.

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    That looks really ugly.

    Also in regards to Dice/Battlefield
    DICE says it will support Linux, could see Battlefield 4 on SteamOS | TweakTown

    DICE says it will support Linux, could see Battlefield 4 on SteamOS
    Read more at DICE says it will support Linux, could see Battlefield 4 on SteamOS | TweakTown
    Which is music to my ears! Of course let's see if they actually do it, im not sure how they would incorporate Origins into SteamOS since EA/Dice didnt want to release BF3/4 into Steam so gamers have to load another client onto their systems

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    kind of looks like an Apple/AMD Radeon Themed Xbox One...

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    nVidia suggests SFF PCs > consoles.

    Nvidia: 'PC far superior to next-gen consoles' | Games industry news | MCV

    Note the PR comment about Steam, without directly labeling the systems as Steam Boxes.

    Given MS and Sony went the AMD route, gee, wonder why nVidia might be pushing SFF PC offerings for gaming?
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    I think Nvidia is a little butt hurt that the Wii U, PS4, and X1 all use AMD APUs.

    I bet if one of the consoles used an Nvidia based chipset they would be singing a different tune.

    Nvidia is still making some money off of the consoles as they have licensed out their Physx engine to run on the AMD APUs powering the PS4 and X1.
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    Wii U, uses a PowerPC Chip, not an AMD APU.

    It uses an AMD GPU though, Just like the Wii and Gamecube before it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShyguyXPC View Post
    Wii U, uses a PowerPC Chip, not an AMD APU.

    It uses an AMD GPU though, Just like the Wii and Gamecube before it.
    Thanks for the info. I knew it was a CPU+GPU combination, and figured it was an AMD APU since the GPU was by AMD.

    I also didn't know that anyone still used PowerPC
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    Neither did I, though I knew the old GC and Wii were PowerPC/AMD Radeon combo's, but didn't know the Wii U was, I just knew the only Consoles with an APU was PS4 and XB1, The Wii U came out a year ago, before any of this APU Console stuff did, so knew the Wii U didn't have one, but wasn't sure what its actual CPU was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizkitkid2001 View Post
    I also didn't know that anyone still used PowerPC
    The PS3* and the Xbox 360 both have PowerPC processors as well.

    *The PPC core "manages" the Cell SPEs.

    These days, Power7 and the upcoming Power8 are some of the most powerful HPC and enterprise-class server processor architectures to date. Power8 is designed for massive bandwidth via large L3+L4 caches, up to 8 dedicated memory controllers per chip, etc.
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    The move is hardly surprising, but anyway, Valve joins the Linux Foundation.
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    First public release on 12/13....

    SteamOS will be available to download on December 13th | The Verge

    ....though expect this particular release to be more like a development snapshot.
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    Yep, gonna see and download in two days, take a look at it, see how the interface is, already been browsing linux steam games in their store every now and then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobRich View Post
    The PS3* and the Xbox 360 both have PowerPC processors as well.

    *The PPC core "manages" the Cell SPEs.

    These days, Power7 and the upcoming Power8 are some of the most powerful HPC and enterprise-class server processor architectures to date. Power8 is designed for massive bandwidth via large L3+L4 caches, up to 8 dedicated memory controllers per chip, etc.
    I knew that, I was referring to new consumer products. The Wii U is the last major new consumer product to use the PPC architecture that I know of. Since the Wii U came out, I do not know of any other new consumer device being released that uses PPC. The consumer market has been dominated by x86 and ARM.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobRich View Post
    First public release on 12/13....

    SteamOS will be available to download on December 13th | The Verge

    ....though expect this particular release to be more like a development snapshot.

    I hope Steam OS really catches on. It would be nice to forgo Windows for my next gaming PC build.
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