does anyone know anything about this picture?

[Bizkitkid2001]

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Originally Posted by Siliconjunkie

FYI, SATA cables are SMALLER than IDE, SCSI is nearly identical to IDE (both ribbon). Older SCSI is almost identical to IDE, even the connector.

And, when you deal with servers, external storage is the norm. Servers themselves have fairly limited internal storage < 6 bays.

Dispite what somebody posted, I doubt it is IDE. IF it is, whoever built it wasn't too bright. To make use of all those drives you would have no expansion room and it would be a million little volumes since you cannot hook all of those drives to 1 IDE RAID controller. Unless they just had the drives laying around and ALOT of free time.

And lookie what we have here! Round SCSI cables...
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...47078&CatId=70

Still say you know exactly what is in there? Also, don't see a PCI card anywhere in there.

YOu wouldn't have one RAID controller. YOu would ahve multiple 4x ide RAID controllers. And i'm assuming the average mobo has about 6 pci slot. Thats 4 x 6 = 24. I count 23 hard drives int eh case so that leaves one slot available. Also the card I am referring too might be the video card, its kinda hard to tell where its located because of the wiring. But you can see it at the bottom of the case to the right of the yellow cable.

And I don't think anyone did this as a practical thing. I think someone just did this just because they could. I remember in the old thread people were saying the drives ranged from 60-120gb. Even if this picture is a couple years old, they still had 250gb drives 2 years ago.

[LeftCoast]

A bit OT... but how do you insert a picture into a thread like this? HTML?

[Dazbo666]

...and to think that before I saw that pic, I was quite pleased with the capacity of my new 250Gb HDD that I bought on Saturday?!

[rrcn]

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Originally Posted by LeftCoast

A bit OT... but how do you insert a picture into a thread like this? HTML?

You do it like this:

[IIMG]http://www.ImageURLHere.com/image.jpg[/IMG]

*I purposely put the second "I" in the first tag to show the code. Should be [IMG].

[Siliconjunkie]

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Originally Posted by Bizkitkid2001

YOu wouldn't have one RAID controller. YOu would ahve multiple 4x ide RAID controllers. And i'm assuming the average mobo has about 6 pci slot. Thats 4 x 6 = 24. I count 23 hard drives int eh case so that leaves one slot available. Also the card I am referring too might be the video card, its kinda hard to tell where its located because of the wiring. But you can see it at the bottom of the case to the right of the yellow cable.

And I don't think anyone did this as a practical thing. I think someone just did this just because they could. I remember in the old thread people were saying the drives ranged from 60-120gb. Even if this picture is a couple years old, they still had 250gb drives 2 years ago.

You are still stuck in an IDE mindset. IDE is simply not appropriate technology for something like this. NOBODY hangs 24 IDE drives off of one machine. It simply isn't designed for it and you could not even make effective use of them.

There was a Linux project a while back to build something similar to this, I think they got up to 12 drives on 3 IDE RAID controllers before they had problems. I don't recall the limit, but there is an inherent limit on IDE controllers, addressing perhaps?

IDE is a desktop or LOW end server technology. SCSI/fibre channel would be the only sensable way to do something like this.

And, it is entirely practical. Just not for your home PC. We hang storage cabinets off of servers all day long, without even a second thought. In an enviroment that something like this would be used in, the fact that 120GB drives even exist is irrelevent. We have literrally thousands of servers happily humming away with many 9.1 gig drives. The enterprise is not worried about capacity per drive. They are worried about time between failure, redundancy and performance. None of which even 80 gig IDE drives are particularly good at, let alone 120s or larger. We are just starting to see servers with 72 gig drives in them. The vast majority in production use are 36.4 and 18.2. Labs commonly have 9.1 and 4.3s.

Not to be rude, but your vision on this is greatly impeded by your age. You simply don't have the experience to make statements like "And I don't think anyone did this as a practical thing. I think someone just did this just because they could.". After you are out of school and in the real world where technology like this is in use, you will understand.

[Bizkitkid2001]

How can that not be rude. You say i am immature when it comes to knowing about technology. Thats like telling Kansas they know nothing about classic rock.

Look. I posted my opinion, and a lot of other people agree with me. I'm not the only one who thinks these are IDE. Some people say that a lot of the drives are WD400 which are IDE hard drives.

http://www.techimo.com/photo/showpho...cat/500/page/1

I NEVER said this was practical. All I said is that he probably did it just because he could. Hell there are a lot of people who have done a lot more stupid things with computers. Also, it wouldn't be practical if all of those drives were SCSI as that would cost a crap load of money. Why spend so much money on a server that looks like crap? Now tell me thats not practical

Hell. Who even said this thing worked? The guy might have just put the drives in and took a picture without even being able to boot into windows.

EDIT: One more thing. Who said that this was a server at all? No one really posted any true specs. You even said yourself that people who runs servers don't care about size per drive, but redundency. Didn't you just cancle yourself because you said that computer was a scsi server, even though you say that the way its setup compared to real world isn't practical? Come on, you keep crossing your words, your not making any sense. You first say that the computer is a SCSI server, which you have no baises on. Then you say that SCSI servers aren't setup the way that computer is.

From what you have explain about SCSI, that computer ISN'T using SCSI drives.

[Bizkitkid2001]

On further inspection. This computer only has 4 pci slots. Also, you notice that the middle drives are flat IDE cables. You only see rounded cabled being plugged into PCI slots.

http://www.techimo.com/forum/t111898.html

[cysus]

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Originally Posted by CyberGhost

[IMG] 24 drives!!!!???

I spy 22 drives ?!?!

[Bizkitkid2001]

hmm i recounted and got 23 drives. There are four right above the PSU. Its hard to see the one on top but you can see the ribbon cable going up to it.

[cysus]

I recounted, assuming there are 4 above the PSU that make 23.