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Old October 10th, 2008, 07:37 PM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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Building my first desktop

So I've decided to build a new desktop computer for myself rather than buy a new laptop. I want to build a very high-end gaming system while still getting a good bang for the buck. In other words, I don't necessarily need the absolute top if it doesn't perform for the price.

The problem is, I know very little about the specific parts in terms of which is better than which. This is where I was hoping to get some help. I'd like to stay under $1k for the system...this does not include monitor, keyboard, or mouse.

Also, I want to be able to upgrade this system in the future rather than have to buy a complete new one if that makes any difference.

I'm not sure what other info I can give to be helpful. Please give me the reasoning for your choices so I can learn the differences between these many choices.

Finally, if anyone would be kind enough to chat with me and help me out on AIM I'd be very appreciative.

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Old October 10th, 2008, 08:07 PM     #2 (permalink)
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ill make you one for fun ill warn u im new to this two though but i can make a good one with no monitor for less then 1k

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Old October 10th, 2008, 08:13 PM     #3 (permalink)
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Ok thank you.

Some specific questions I have so far are should I go with a duo core or a quad? Also, which video card would be best?

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Dual cores are best at gaming ATM. Quad core benefits you if you encode/decode video/audio, or if your a heavy multi-tasker. They also are a bit better for "future prrofing" your PC. Basically meaning, the Quads will handle everything fine now, and a couple of years from now even too.

As far as the video card, that all depends on budget mainly.
I'll throw together a list for ya real quick.
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Dual cores are best at gaming ATM. Quad core benefits you if you encode/decode video/audio, or if your a heavy multi-tasker. They also are a bit better for "future prrofing" your PC. Basically meaning, the Quads will handle everything fine now, and a couple of years from now even too.

As far as the video card, that all depends on budget mainly.
I'll throw together a list for ya real quick.
Can you define heavy multi-tasker? I tend to have many internet windows open, email, itunes, utorrent, limewire, AIM, etc open at the same time but I don't know if this qualifies. I don't really do video editing. Based on this would the Dual be best? If I wanted to run a game like Crysis which would be best?

Also, can you explain to me SLI and Crossfire a little bit? It sounds like if I want a computer that can be easily upgraded in the future this is the way to go.

Thanks for your time.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 08:35 PM     #7 (permalink)
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sry went over the price byt 117 =p

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again dont take my opiion very highly i know someones going to come in here and say " dont listen to that guy hes new and that build sucks IMO "
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Can you define heavy multi-tasker? I tend to have many internet windows open, email, itunes, utorrent, limewire, AIM, etc open at the same time but I don't know if this qualifies. I don't really do video editing. Based on this would the Dual be best? If I wanted to run a game like Crysis which would be best?

Also, can you explain to me SLI and Crossfire a little bit? It sounds like if I want a computer that can be easily upgraded in the future this is the way to go.

Thanks for your time.
I think the quad would show it's worth. You can do everything you just listed, plus burn a dvd, watch a movie, and be playing a game if you really wanted to. Quads are nice to have.
As far as SLI and Crossfire. It's basically the same thing. It just mean that you have 2 cards running, hooked together by a bridge, that boost your graphics cards performance. SLI is the Nvidia version, Crossfire is the ATI version.
Right now, there are no motherboards that support both. It's either one of the other, and you have to have a motherboard that supports whatever you choose.
Which in my list above, I always add that in, as a upgrade option if nothing else. So if you stick with the "Nvidia system" or "ATI system" I posted above, your good to go. Just add in a QUALITY power supply, that is very important. Then add a second GPU.
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karma! hows the build i made
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Dual core:
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Wolfdale 3.16GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
$189.99

Quad Core:
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
$189

Nvidia system:
Newegg.com - ASUS P5N-D LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

ATI system:
Newegg.com - DFI LP DK X48-T2RSB PLUS LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

Nvidia GPU:
Newegg.com - MSI N260GTX-T2D896 OC GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
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Newegg.com - ASUS EN9800GTX+ DK/HTDI/512M GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

Ati GPU:
Newegg.com - MSI R4850-512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
or
Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100257L Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

Ram depends on what board you get. And for HDD's, I recommend the WD 640Gb drives. They have 2 platters, so they are damn fast. And they are pretty cheap.

IDK if your a overclocker, but depending on that, you might change out chips too. It really depends on what you actually use this tower for.
So if I'm understanding you correctly it sounds like the Dual would be best for me now? Would the Quad be able to handle a game like Crysis at high settings? Since I want to make sure this system lasts a long time the Quad seems like it might be the better overall choice.

How do I choose between ATI and Nvidia? I really don't have any personal preference. Which would you suggest?

Finally, is there any way I could chat with you to help iron out some of these questions? Sorry but I'm really new and I want to be able to learn.

Thanks.
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