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October 30th, 2008, 10:04 PM
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You cant go by wattage... it means nothing
If you HAVE to go Modular, at least get THIS PSU instead... | 
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October 30th, 2008, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyguyXPC  that case will do SLI fine, might be a bit tight with the really top end cards, but it'll be fine, if the case can accept a stand size ATX mobo, it'll work, currently no cards are longer than the ATX format boards... might have to place hard drives above & below in the bays behind the card, but not a big deal.
The Antec 900 would be a bit better with more room to manuever in the case upgrading & what not, but even that 300, SLI should be ok, just that it will be a tight fit with power plugs & if any ports on mobo behind card slots.
as to the PSU, it should fit also. on the same note as the PSU, you don't need a whopping 800W PSU for SLI, the 600 & 620's previously posted should do fine, just make sure their quality PSU's (both are), & and enough Amperage on the +12V rails...
of which both should have.
if you were maybe running Quad SLI with 2x 9800GX2's or maybe 2 GTX280's, then it might be iffy, but even then I suspect it would be fine? | I am still undecided between the two cases...the antec 900 and the 1200.
Both have good reviews, the 1200 may leave lots of space in the box..which is a good thing...and the air flow looks better.
the antect 900 might get tight if I were to put 2 hard drives and 2 Sli cards...plus the razer sound card...and I am planning to put some additional fans in the system and for that I think the 1200 will be the best choice.
For the PSU...anyone got any modular PSU's? that they would recommend..I need enough plugs/cables to give me everything I need in case I ever decide to upgrade and put new stuff in there..I know some modular PSU's don't have enough plugs.
JP you crew, you guys saving me about 200$+ for now  .
Last few things is a good HDD and a good PSU for SLI without having to worry about my CPU running out of juice. | |
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October 30th, 2008, 10:12 PM
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October 31st, 2008, 02:16 AM
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Doesnt get faster than a Velociraptor...
But youll pay for that speed...
If not a velocirator then one of the larger Seagate models with perpendicular recording is going to be the fastest...
If it were me, I get a 150 Gig V-R and a 500 Gig Seagate.
V-R for the OS, The seagate for everything else
Heres a review of the 300 VS the 1200...
I actually dont think theres a difference in space between the back and the harddrive cage...
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October 31st, 2008, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JPMiller Doesnt get faster than a Velociraptor...
But youll pay for that speed...
If not a velocirator then one of the larger Seagate models with perpendicular recording is going to be the fastest...
If it were me, I get a 150 Gig V-R and a 500 Gig Seagate.
V-R for the OS, The seagate for everything else
Heres a review of the 300 VS the 1200...
I actually dont think theres a difference in space between the back and the harddrive cage... | Ok, I am pretty much done here now
What I don't understand is how to do the Velociraptor for the Vista and the Seagate for everything else :P | |
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October 31st, 2008, 03:22 AM
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I'ts simple really...
You Install the VR and install the OS...
Then install the 2nd regular drive for storage...
Any software that is a LARGE install, you can choose to install in a folder on the storage drive.
Anything normal, or that would specifically benefit from the speed, you can still install like normal, to the VR... (150 gigs is plenty for a bloated install and plenty of programs)
You can also set the default path of your "My Documents" folder to the 2nd Drive...
And then you always save stuff as storage on the larger drive.
I also question your choice of Motherboard...
I truly feel SLI is a waste of Money....
Its ALWAYS better to buy and install ONE current expensive card than add another older card later...
Unless your building a monster in the beginning, and money is no option, then buying 2 of the highest end cards available just to get the ABSOLUTE highest end grahics is the only time I think its feasible to bother with SLI...
The P45 chipsets offer higher stock speeds and more overhead for overclocking if you choose, or future REAL upgrades...
I would look at this... Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards 750i-------------------- P45
FSB = 1333------------FSB = 1600
8G DDR 1066---------16G DDR 1333
$150 -------------------$104
Technically more board for less money and all you lose is the option to use older tech to get a small bump in performance compared to alot more heat and power consumption
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October 31st, 2008, 04:08 AM
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JP I am also having some thoughts...Should I stick with the Q9550 or move back to the Q6600?
This is mainly for gaming. | |
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October 31st, 2008, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JPMiller I'ts simple really...
You Install the VR and install the OS...
Then install the 2nd regular drive for storage...
Any software that is a LARGE install, you can choose to install in a folder on the storage drive.
Anything normal, or that would specifically benefit from the speed, you can still install like normal, to the VR... (150 gigs is plenty for a bloated install and plenty of programs)
You can also set the default path of your "My Documents" folder to the 2nd Drive...
And then you always save stuff as storage on the larger drive.
I also question your choice of Motherboard...
I truly feel SLI is a waste of Money....
Its ALWAYS better to buy and install ONE current expensive card than add another older card later...
Unless your building a monster in the beginning, and money is no option, then buying 2 of the highest end cards available just to get the ABSOLUTE highest end grahics is the only time I think its feasible to bother with SLI...
The P45 chipsets offer higher stock speeds and more overhead for overclocking if you choose, or future REAL upgrades...
I would look at this... Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards 750i-------------------- P45
FSB = 1333------------FSB = 1600
8G DDR 1066---------16G DDR 1333
$150 -------------------$104
Technically more board for less money and all you lose is the option to use older tech to get a small bump in performance compared to alot more heat and power consumption | Your right, I don't have large enough wallet to go SLI. | |
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October 31st, 2008, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by JPMiller I'ts simple really...
You Install the VR and install the OS...
Then install the 2nd regular drive for storage...
Any software that is a LARGE install, you can choose to install in a folder on the storage drive.
Anything normal, or that would specifically benefit from the speed, you can still install like normal, to the VR... (150 gigs is plenty for a bloated install and plenty of programs)
You can also set the default path of your "My Documents" folder to the 2nd Drive...
And then you always save stuff as storage on the larger drive.
I also question your choice of Motherboard...
I truly feel SLI is a waste of Money....
Its ALWAYS better to buy and install ONE current expensive card than add another older card later...
Unless your building a monster in the beginning, and money is no option, then buying 2 of the highest end cards available just to get the ABSOLUTE highest end grahics is the only time I think its feasible to bother with SLI...
The P45 chipsets offer higher stock speeds and more overhead for overclocking if you choose, or future REAL upgrades...
I would look at this... Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards 750i-------------------- P45
FSB = 1333------------FSB = 1600
8G DDR 1066---------16G DDR 1333
$150 -------------------$104
Technically more board for less money and all you lose is the option to use older tech to get a small bump in performance compared to alot more heat and power consumption |
After everything lets do another recap
CD/DVD Drive ( I suppose it can read discs too): Newegg.com - ASUS Black 20X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 20X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 14X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe - CD / DVD Burners
Case: Newegg.com - Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
HDD 1: Newegg.com - Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (bare drive) - Internal Hard Drives
HDD2: Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives
PSU: Newegg.com - Antec TPQ-850 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Power Supplies
Thermal compound: Newegg.com - Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Thermal Compound / Grease
Ram: Newegg.com - CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory
Mobo: Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
OS: Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD - Operating Systems
CPU Cooler: Newegg.com - ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks
Processor: Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
Now regarding the mobo, this is a very important question:
This is the mobo we chose: Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
And I also found this mobo : Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards | |
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October 31st, 2008, 04:48 AM
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Honestly, Im not sure the 9550 is worth the money VS performance...
Dont get me wrong, it IS better obviously...
Just maybe not enough to justify paying nearly double...
And replace that overpriced ASUS with a 22X Samsung...
They are faster overall and MUCH quieter...
I've used both
If you chose the Asus for the lightscribe feature, dont bother...
The media is overpriced and in general its more hassle than its worth
Good Find...
They are virtually the same board with the new Bios
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