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Old October 31st, 2008, 05:06 AM     #21 (permalink)
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JP I am on Yahoo, I got few minutes if we can speak there for few I've added you on.

Also JP, you are right...its double the price, and I won't get a huge performance boost.

Anyone got any benchmarks?

I am not an overclocker...so I won't be OC'ing I guess.

I want something fast.

The 9550 is very attractive as far as the speed and the cache goes...but lets be honest people...will I be able to notice a difference in game performance (as far as CSS FPS games) or multitasking?

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Old October 31st, 2008, 09:58 AM     #22 (permalink)
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I doubt it...you could see a benchmark of 9550 :1,245...6600 975. I take benchmarks with a grain of salt. Yeah, the 9550 is faster, but what REAL WORLD increase? 3 -5 frames per second? 2 second faster load on a program? Big deal, IMO
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Old October 31st, 2008, 11:34 AM     #23 (permalink)
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Also guys, some guy told me this about the mobo I picked:

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Everything looks great now coming to the mobi, Since your getting a Intel I would suppose u would have crossfire plans in the future and that's perfect but the chipset p54 & p35 alike are the best overclockers but the bad thing about them is that they will have dual pci x8 lanes, instead of x16 which intel chipset like x38/x48 have. Now, How much does the x8 lanes affect bandwidth is still contraversial but some sites have sen considerable drops in fps in some games. So in the best interest I would suggest going with a x48 chipset like the gigabyte dq6 a very good overclocker with dual x16 lanes. I would post links for some good x48 based mobo's in the morning. Also the quatro is a great psu too, I have only heard good things about it.

Also I agree, if that's all I am going to see in differences in FPS gaming performance...then its not that huge.
Cept it may run hotter.
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Old October 31st, 2008, 12:25 PM     #24 (permalink)
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Yes, good advice...
However, that makes the assumption you would WANT to use Crossfire/SLI in the future...
You shouldnt...
It just makes no sense to do, unless your doing it for a specific reason
You SHOULD just upgrade every couple of years (1-2) to the best single card you can afford...
Now if you were rocking a 30" or bigger LCD and wanted the extra power for high res on higher end games there MIGHT be a reason to plan for CFX/SLI
But lets be honest, a gamer usually wants to upgrade every 2 years, (or much less...)
So in 1-2 years, things will have changed so rapidly and prices will be so low that it wont make sense not to buy all new, and NOT upgrade...

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Old October 31st, 2008, 12:44 PM     #25 (permalink)
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and if you were considering grabbing a crossfire or SLI compatible Mobo, I'd wait & hold off for now, with Intel supposedly releasing their new platform & hopefully new Chipset that will/should be supporting BOTH Crossfire & SLI on the same board.

if your really considering either one of those & wanting to shell out some big bucks, I'd wait for that chipset/boards to come out, at least that way you have a choice of going either route when you come to that bridge.

in some situations Crossfire & SLI are beneficial, much more than it is for gaming, such as 3D rendering/animation, or Distributed Computing, etc etc, or programs utilizing nvidia's CUDA programming/tech... for games, though about the only time SLI is advantageous is with the top of the line cards, as there are no others above them that yield even greater framerates & graphics power, so running 2 or more cards of those, you'll get THE best graphics available period, and as for most games, up until some point it can't get any better other than jacking up the framerates beyond what the human eye can percieve anyways...

though sometimes SLI/CFX can be beneficial, if you can snag a couple of cards for a sweet deal & pay less than a single card with same performance, or even pay just a bit more than the single card, and this is only assuming ones Power Supply can handle it too.

but in general as JP said its not really worth it, at least not until they can make good on their promises of giving us truly 50-100% better performance over a single card, since its inception SLI is still only good for maybe 20-35% increase depending on games (despite false marketting campaigns by both ATI & Nvidia), some may be more, some less, but thats generally the range I see when looking at benchmarks, usually.
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Old October 31st, 2008, 02:57 PM     #26 (permalink)
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Well I won't be running more than 24" inch monitor LCD.

For the mobo, this will do for now...and If I want I can always upgrade to a better mobo down the road...but I will not be going SLI anytime soon.

I really would like the Q9550 over the Q6600 for the speed/less power usage (that means less hot)...
Not sure if I can justify paying an additional 200$ for it...
I mean since the Q6600 is cheap, I can always upgrade it to something newer in 2-3 years down the road...and not be stuck with the Q9550 and shelling an extra 200$ for it.
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Believe me the Q6600 doesnt run hot at all even with a stock HSF and poor case cooling...
So dont let that be a factor...
I think its smart to dial it back and worry about it later

If no SLI right away, go with that P45 Gigabyte you found
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Old October 31st, 2008, 07:18 PM     #28 (permalink)
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Believe me the Q6600 doesnt run hot at all even with a stock HSF and poor case cooling...
So dont let that be a factor...
I think its smart to dial it back and worry about it later

If no SLI right away, go with that P45 Gigabyte you found

Your right, plus I can upgrade the Mobo later on with the current ram I have..that shouldn't be a trouble moving the HDD and some key components to a new mobo and processor if I were to decide to upgrade right?

The Q6600 is saving me a pocket load of cash that I can use to invest towards a good Video card.

So everything kinda evens out..JP before I place my order is everythin good to go at this point?
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It is if you ask me...
Thats a VERY solid build
Very similar to the builds I do for work...
So are you using the old videocard, or getting a new one?

Re-list with the current options if you dont mind...
And include what your transferring over from the old....
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It is if you ask me...
Thats a VERY solid build
Very similar to the builds I do for work...
So are you using the old videocard, or getting a new one?

Re-list with the current options if you dont mind...
And include what your transferring over from the old....

Sure:

CD/DVD Drive: Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners

Case: Newegg.com - Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases

HDD 1 for OS Only: Newegg.com - Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (bare drive) - Internal Hard Drives

HDD 2 for the rest: Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives

PSU: Newegg.com - Antec TPQ-850 850W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Power Supplies

Compound for CPU: Newegg.com - Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Thermal Compound / Grease

RAM: Newegg.com - CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

Mobo: Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

Processor: Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

OS: Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit English for System Builders 1pk DSP OEI DVD - Operating Systems

CPU Cooler: Newegg.com - ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks


Old stuff that Is coming over: 19" HP LCD Monitor (soon to be upgraded to 22-24")

Video card: 7950gt extreme edition

Sound Card: Razer sound card


Thats about it...thats enough stuff to start up a new cpu right? Anything else I am missing beside keyboard/mouse?


I still have big feelings about the Q9550...I'd love the extra speed and the coolness if I decided to go oc also the extra 2 Cache on it its nice to make things go fast...
I do use Photoshop/Flash..
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