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Old May 21st, 2002, 04:50 PM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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How much could you build this for?

This is the Gateway 300X model and I was wondering if it was a good price? I just copied the specs from the print preview page. I did make a few changes.
It's for someone at my work.
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Processor
Intel® Celeron® Processor 1.7GHz with 256K Cache

Memory
256MB DDR SDRAM

Hard Drive
40GB UATA100 7200RPM Hard Drive

Floppy Drive
3.5" 1.44MB diskette drive

CD-ROM
24x/10x/40x Recordable ReWriteable CDRW ........[ -US$50.00]

IOMEGA Drive
IOMEGA 250MB Internal ZIP Drive w/1 Zip Disk ........[ +US$99.00]

Certification
Energy Star Compliant

Operating System
Microsoft® Windows® 2000 Professional ........[ +US$99.00]

Application Software
No Application Software Selected (MSOL Agreement ONLY)

AntiVirus Software
Norton AntiVirus 90 day Introductory Offer

Monitor
15" LCD Flat Panel Display (15" viewable)

Video
Intel® Extreme Graphics with up to 48MB Dynamic Video Memory

Keyboard
Multi-function Keyboard

Mouse
Logitech USB Optical Wheel Mouse and Gateway mouse pad

Sound System
Integrated Enhanced Audio

Speakers
Boston Acoustics® BA745 Speakers with Subwoofer

Case
Gateway Micro-Tower Case

Expansion Slots
3 PCI Expansion Slots

External ports
(6) USB (2 in front and 4 more in back), Parallel, Serial, and (2) PS/2 (USB Version with Win XP is 2.0, Win 2000 1.1)

Modem
56K PCI Voice Modem

Network Adapter
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet

Internet Service Provider
One year America Online® Internet Access (New members only) OR 6-Months of MSN Internet Access (New members only) (Not Available with Windows® 2000)

Limited Warranty Program
2 Year Limited Parts / Labor / Onsite / 2 Year Limited Support ........[ +US$89.00]

Personalized Help Desk - Multi-vendor Support
For details on Multi-vendor Support please contact your Gateway Sales Representative

Personalized Help Desk - Peripheral Support
For details on Peripheral Support please contact your Gateway Sales Representative
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Old May 21st, 2002, 05:21 PM     #2 (permalink)
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The best I could come up with is through NewEgg.com. $985 before shipping. Of course you only get warranties through the manufacturers (unless it arrives broken), and you have to build it yourself. I put together as comprable system as I could. I picked the cheapest available (in terms of shipping + price) when I didn't know what manufacturer Gateway was using.

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Old May 21st, 2002, 05:25 PM     #3 (permalink)
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System details

Cases PC - ATX - Mini/Med Tower
Raidmax Beige Hydraulic ATX Case Model SF860B-USB Retail ***Buy this w/ YS tech Fan and get $5.00 off***
(Door slides down automaticly at a push of a button.)
Specifications:
2 Front USB ports
Bays 3x 5.25" and 2x 3.5" external 2x (hidden) 3.5"
Dimensions: (LxWxH) 17x7.5x19.5"
Case fans: Standard 80x80 side fan No Power Supply N82E16811156010 $42.00 $42.00
CD ROM-Rewritable Drive
Artec CDRW 32x12x48x IDE CDROM Drive featuring JustLink Technology OEM w/ Nero Software V5.5 ideal tool for backing up or distributing your data. No need to get an extra hard drive, just burn it and store it. Specifications: Data Transfer Rate: Reading: 48x (CAV), 6000 KB/S (Max) Recording: CD-R/32x, CD-RW/12x (CLV), 1800 KB/S Disc Supporting Formats: CD-DA, CD-ROM(Mode-1), CD-ROM/XA Mode-2(Form-1, Form-2), or Multi-session Photo CD, Cd-I, Video CD, Enhanced CD & CD Plus, CD-R, N82E16827120134 $58.00 $58.00
Fan / Cooling Device - CPU
Cooler Master DP4-6I51 Pentium 4 Up to 1.7GHz HeatSink and Fan Retail Version - L89 x W61 x H40 (mm) FAN Dimensions 60 x 60 x 15 (mm) Rated Voltage 12 VDC Rated Speed 4500 RPM Air Flow 17.3 CFM Noise Level 32.3 dB(A) N82E16835103117 $4.00 $4.00
Floppy Drives
Teac 1.44MB 3.5 Inch Floppy Drive # FD235HFC291 - OEM Version 1year warranty N82E16821103118 $9.00 $9.00
Hard Drives - IDE
SAMSUNG 40GB 7200RPM Model# SP4002H - OEM, DRIVE ONLY
Specifications:
Size: 40 Gigabytes
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA100
Seek time: 8.9ms
RPM:7200
OEM(Drive alone) 3 Year Manufacturer Warranty SpinPoint P40 Series 3.5-inch - High Speed Digital Signal Processor(DSP)Based Architecture, 7 way interleave OTF Error Correction S.M.A.R.T. Compliant, ImpacGuard™& NoiseGuard™ --* Works With PC & Mac *-- N82E16822152001 $63.00 $63.00
Keyboards - English
ORtek MCK-800 BEIGE Multimedia Keyboard. PS2. Built-in 16 Multimedia hot keys (6 Programmable keys). One-touch solution to popular internet web sites, Multimedia, and favorite application. Comfortable silent & tactile switch. Agency Approvals: FCC, CE, BSMI, WHQL, CSA. OS Compatibility: Windows 95/98/2000/Me/NT 4.0 (Support NT with PS/2 keyboard Only). Please see images. N82E16823134002 $10.00 $10.00
Memory - PC (DDR)
KINGSTON KVR266X64C25/256 256MB 32x64 PC2100 DDR RAM - RETAIL 6 Layers High Quality Board; CL 2.5; 184-Pin Unbuffered. Requires DDR supported Motherboard - Lifetime Warranty. N82E16820141008 $53.00 $53.00
Modems
Encore 56k PCI Modem with MOTOROLA Chipset Voice, Data Fax ENF656-PCI2-MO Retail
Specifications:
Data Modulation Rates: V.90/K56flex, V.34bis, V.34+, ITU-T V.34, V.32bis, V.32, V.22bis, V.22 and Bell 212A, ITU-T V.23, V.21 and Bell 103.
Transmission: 56k, 33.6k, 31.2k, 28.8k, 24.0k 14.4k, 12.0k, 9600, 7200, 4800, 1200bps, 1200/75bps & 300bps
Voice Mode: Allows a DTE to record and play back voice through sound card
Data Compression: ITU-T V.42bis and MNP 5, ITU-T V.42 and MNP 2,3,4.
PCI Bus, Plug and Play
Compatibility: IBM PC, 586 or compatible N82E16825180002 $9.00 $9.00
Monitors - LCD Flat Panel
GEMSTAR GL166S (Beige) 15" XGA Color TFT LCD MONITOR - RETAIL Specifications:
Resolution:1024 x 768. Dot Pitch:0.297mm.
Display Colors: 16.7 Million Colors
Dimension 346 x 379 x 255 mm H x W x D
Controls: Contrast, Brightness, Phase, Color Temp, Auto Adjust.
Dead Pixels Policy: Replacement and Refund for 8 or more DEAD PIXELS ONLY! N82E16824150007 $309.00 $309.00
Motherboards - Intel
MSI 845GL Pentium 4 Socket 478 Motherboard Specifications MFG-PART#: MS-6526GL CPU: SOCKET 478 FOR INTEL P4, FSB 400MHZ CHIPSET: INTEL 845GL CHIPSET MEMORY: 3DIMMS FOR DDR UP TO 2GB IDE: ATA100 VIDEO AND AUDIO: CHIPSET INTEGRATED LAN: INTEL 82562ET LAN ON BOARD SLOT: 3PCI, 1CNR MICRO ATX, RETAIL Package: RETAIL N82E16813130345 $98.00 $98.00
Mouse
LOGITECH B69 CORDED OPTICAL MOUSE - OEM Combo USB and PS/2. Ambidextrous shape. Innovative scroll wheel. N82E16826104116 $12.00 $12.00
Processors - Intel Celeron
Intel Celeron (Pentium 4 based) 1.7GHz 128K 400MHz FSB mPGA 478PIN Processor OEM Version
Specifications:
CPU: 1.7GHz
Type: Celeron
Cache: 128K
BUS: 100MHz
Socket: mPGA OEM (Processor Only) N82E16819112170 $89.00 $89.00
Software - OS
Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional with Service Pack 2 Full OEM Version *Must be Purchased w/Hardware!* - This item is not refundable!! N82E16837102130 $141.00 $141.00
Speakers
ALTEC LANSING AVS 300W MULTIMEDIA - OEM 3 Piece Speaker System Frequency Response: 70Hz-18kHz, Satellite Power: 7 Watts, Subwoofer Power: 10 Watts OEM White Box N82E16836113120 $25.00 $25.00
Zip Drive / Tape Back-Ups
Iomega Internal EIDE 250MB Zip Drive - OEM Version *No Cartridge Included!!!* N82E16840107121 $67.00 $67.00


Subtotal » $989.00
Shipping and Handling Charge » $ 76.71
Grand Total » $ 1,065.71

Sorry if this is hard to read, but I don't really feel like going through it all and making sure that it all lines up nicely.
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Old May 21st, 2002, 05:44 PM     #4 (permalink)
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Umm I may be blind but im not seeing how much that gateway is.
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Old May 21st, 2002, 06:20 PM     #5 (permalink)
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All prices from newegg.com

EVERCASE E4252WEF5 42$
Lite On 32x12x40 CDRW 70$
WD WESTERN DIGITAL EIDE HARD DRIVE 20GB 7200RPM 62$
KB-2000 107-KEY WIN98 PS/2 KEYBOARD 3.50$
CRUCIAL MICRON 256MB 32x64 PC 2100 DDR RAM 47$
Diamond SupraMax 56K V.92 PCI Modem 17$
VIEWSONIC E70f 17" (16" Viewable) (WHITE) 1280x1024 PerfectFlat CRT MONITOR 152$
LOGITECH B69 CORDED OPTICAL MOUSE 12$
ENCORE ENL832-TX-RE 10/100B PCI FAST ETHERNET CARD 4$
AMD 1600+/266 FSB Athlon XP PROCESSOR CPU - OEM
Thermaltake VOLCANO 5 7$
VISIONTEK Xtasy 5632 GEFORCE2 GTS-V 4X/2X 32MB DDR AGP 44$ or
INNO3D GEFORCE3 Ti 200 64MB DDR AGP 121$

=445.50$ w/o monitor, with GeForce2 GTS-v
=522.50$ w/o monitor, with GeForce 3 ti200
Monitor makes 597.50$ and 674.5$ respectively.

Plus shipping.

Dollar says an AthlonXP 1600+ beats the pants off a 1700mhz Celeron, CDROM is 32X not 24X, video card is GeForce 3 ti200 (possibly) not built in Intel (ew), RAM is crucial, not generic, but hdd is 20 instead of 40gb (change if you want more).

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Old May 21st, 2002, 07:22 PM     #6 (permalink)
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Well now we're looking at the Dell Dimension 4400 but that comes with XP and we want Windows 2000.

Some of our software will probably not run on Windows XP and Theres been some bad things said about it and we dont want to risk all the glithces so we'd rather go wtih Windows 2000.

But I called Dell and they said that the Dimension are now all Shipping with XP and that we can't get Windows 2000 on them anymore.

So i have to keep on looking
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Old May 23rd, 2002, 11:11 AM     #7 (permalink)
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Well now we're looking at the Dell Dimension 4400 but that comes with XP and we want Windows 2000.

Some of our software will probably not run on Windows XP and Theres been some bad things said about it and we dont want to risk all the glithces so we'd rather go wtih Windows 2000.

But I called Dell and they said that the Dimension are now all Shipping with XP and that we can't get Windows 2000 on them anymore.

So i have to keep on looking

I doubt that you will have any problems running apps that do well on W2K, when using WinXP as your OS. At home, I have 2 pcs running XPPro. One was previously W2KPro, the other was Win98se (now dual boot Win98se/XPPro). With he exception of certain hardware (Intel Me2Cam on my 9-year old's pc) and a few kid's games, everything I have, business and gaming runs just fine in XPPro. At work, I use W2KPro, W2K Server, Win95B for a whole collection of apps. I am part of a test eval team to check all our business software prior to U/Ging all user workstations. Been at it several months. So far, I have only run across a couple rather obscure cases (certauin versions of DB programs, certain versions of Novell/Lotus Notes combinations) where something worked in W95B but did not run in XPPro (but then again, they wouldn't run in W2KPro either).
My experience has been if it runs in W2KPro it will run fine in WinXPPro.
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My experience has been if it runs in W2KPro it will run fine in WinXPPro.

Fovgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't WINXP based off of the same Kernal as W2KPro? I would think that you are right for that reason.
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Fovgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't WINXP based off of the same Kernal as W2KPro? I would think that you are right for that reason.

You are right on! We have hundreds of client pcs still running W95B and W98... that's where our real concerns are... it's not those folks who are on W2K migrating to WinXP.
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