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June 3rd, 2009, 02:23 AM
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Well, i am no expert of creating computer. This will be my first build so call me a "newb" if need be. I found a bunch of the basics and need to know if this build will work, if and what will i need to change, Will i decent fps on regular settings with the monitor, Do i have to worry about overheating/ Not enough power with my selected items. Like i said, im working on choosing a build before i buy anything and i would like everyones input before i do.
(There may to two of some items incase the first is not compatible or other reasons)
Here is my build as listed: Apevia X-Cruiser ATX Black Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side, Front USB, Audio and Firewire Ports Apevia X-Cruiser ATX Black Mid-Tower Case with Clear Side, Front USB, Audio and Firewire Ports X-CRUISER-BK at TigerDirect.com BFG GeForce 9800 GT Video Card - 512MB GDDR3, PCI Express 2.0, (2) Dual Link DVI, HDTV, VGA Support BFG GeForce 9800 GT Video Card - 512MB GDDR3, PCI Express 2.0, (2) Dual Link DVI, HDTV, VGA Support BFGE98512GTE at TigerDirect.com
( Is this Video card powerful enough to run newer games on normal graphics levels, not High? I.E Counter strike with a decent amount of FPS?) Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB Hard Drive - 7200, 16MB, ATA-100, OEM
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB Hard Drive - 7200, 16MB, ATA-100, OEM WD5000AAKB at TigerDirect.com
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 Processor BX80580Q8200 - 2.33GHz, 4MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Quad Core, Retail, Socket 775, Processor with Fan Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 Processor BX80580Q8200 - 2.33GHz, 4MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Quad Core, Retail, Socket 775, Processor with Fan at TigerDirect.com
Corsair Dual Channel TWINX 4096MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory (2 x 2048MB) Corsair Dual Channel TWINX 4096MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory (2 x 2048MB) TWIN2X4096-6400C5 at TigerDirect.com
(Is this enough Ram to run most games smoothly? I.E World of warcraft)
XFX nForce 750i SLI Extreme Motherboard - NVIDIA nForce 750i, 45nm Support, Socket 775, ATX, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, Gigabit LAN, S/PDIF, USB 2.0, Firewire, Serial ATA, RAID XFX nForce 750i SLI Extreme Motherboard - NVIDIA nForce 750i, 45nm Support, Socket 775, ATX, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, Gigabit LAN, SPDIF, USB 2.0, Firewire, Serial ATA, RAID MB750I72P9 at TigerDirect.com
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Asus P5Q Motherboard - Intel P45, Socket 775, ATX, Audio, PCI Express 2.0, S/PDIF, Gigabit LAN, Firewire, USB 2.0, SATA, RAID Asus P5Q Motherboard - Intel P45, Socket 775, ATX, Audio, PCI Express 2.0, SPDIF, Gigabit LAN, Firewire, USB 2.0, SATA, RAID at TigerDirect.com
Acer X193Wb 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 1440x900 WSXGA, 2000:1 Contrast Ratio, 5ms, VGA, Energy Star  Acer X193Wb 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 1440x900 WSXGA, 2000:1 Contrast Ratio, 5ms, VGA, Energy Star at TigerDirect.com
Corsair TX650W 650-Watt Power Supply - ATX, 120mm Fan, SLI-Ready, SATA-Ready, 80Plus Corsair TX650W 650-Watt Power Supply - ATX, 120mm Fan, SLI-Ready, SATA-Ready, 80Plus CMPSU-650TX at TigerDirect.com
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Corsair TX750W 750-Watt Power Supply - ATX, 140mm Fan, SLI-Ready, SATA-Ready, 80Plus Corsair TX750W 750-Watt Power Supply - ATX, 140mm Fan, SLI-Ready, SATA-Ready, 80Plus CMPSU-750TX at TigerDirect.com
(If the extra power is needed or most likely reccomended) CD-Drive: HP 410125-100 48X CD-ROM OEM - 48x, SATA HP 410125-100 48X CD-ROM OEM - 48x, SATA at TigerDirect.com
(Will this run games and cd's etc? Also do i need to buy SATA coords, it was stated in comments on TG.com)
Advice would be very helpful and welcome. Like i said this is my first build and i would rather not screw up and waste money on a system that will overheat or short-circuit due to not enough power or anything else.
I forgot to mention, my budget is about $1000-1050, less is better. This computer will mainly be used for gaming, i don't game 24/7 but i want this to withstand hours of gaming without overheating. So with that said, do i need to add any extra fans for cooling? Also, on the topic of operating systems, a few years ago i bought the tower i am using today from Best buy, only the tower, and it came with a Windows vista "Windows Anytime upgrade" on the disk it tells how to upgrade, then says "This disc contains 32-bit software only. So does this mean i can use this for my build as an operating system? or is this jut for upgrading to 64 bit?
Thanks again!
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June 3rd, 2009, 03:21 AM
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June 3rd, 2009, 04:55 AM
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Thank you for the advice and for welcoming me. If you have the time to build me a list with items of almost the same performance/quality that would be great. Also, how would i install windows 7 on this new computer? Also what do you recommend, 32 or 64 bit of Windows 7?
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June 3rd, 2009, 04:57 AM
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June 3rd, 2009, 05:49 AM
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For a bit more +/- $20, grab this one, same card as Aaron mentioned, but has 1GB memory instead, which can/will help with some games at higher resolutions (depending on how long down the road you have it, and whether you end up buying a 1080 or higher resolution LCD) Newegg.com - EVGA 01G-P3-1155-TR GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
as to the OS, your going to need 64-bit, with 4GB of System RAM & Video Memory. 32 bit can only address up to 4GB total between all components of the system (System RAM, Video memory, CPU Cache, etc etc), to be able to use all of your 4GB of RAM, you'll need to move to 64-bit windows.
between the video card, CPU and drives (subtract their total amount of memory from the 4GB of System RAM and thats roughly what you'll have for available RAM for Windows/software), you'll be lucky if you have 3GB of RAM to run, which is still more than enough for the OS and most games... but in years down the road, it'll more than likely start to hinder the systems performance.
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June 3rd, 2009, 06:17 AM
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Dont go LG775. Its a dead socket. You will not be getting anything faster for that. IMO its either AMD's AM3 or Core i7 for the high end.
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June 3rd, 2009, 10:43 AM
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First we start all the best company hardware parts then we choose which is the best for long time usage and which is faster than the other standard company hardware. | |
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June 3rd, 2009, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by opoll602 First we start all the best company hardware parts then we choose which is the best for long time usage and which is faster than the other standard company hardware. | WTF are you talking about?
anyways, as to PMF's comment.
yeah, but with i7 after the CPU and Mobo cost, your now nearing the total budget Aaron was able to put together.
add in the RAM and you have your $600-ish budget.
factoring in the other parts, brings the systems total cost much closer to the max budget of the user, leaving less for other parts.
AM3 would make more sense.
but depending on when this is going to be built, it would make more sense to hold out a little and wait for Intels i5 platform to debut soon. | |
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June 3rd, 2009, 04:35 PM
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Well Im an intel fanboy.  Last AMD I had was the athlon64 3000+ I then made a jump to the Q6600 when it was released so you can see where im coming from.
'Pull' knows more about amd systems and I am sure he can do his list  (lately its been threads with me going intel and 'pull' amd). | |
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June 3rd, 2009, 05:02 PM
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up until my Athlon 64 X2 system (Socket 939) I was an AMD fanboy as well. when about 9 months after its release I jumped up to an Intel Core 2 Duo system (E6400), which is what I moved up to with the Q6600 last year, and now i7.
for my main game rig I've seen little reason to move back over to AMD right now (or up until recently with the AM3 AMD Phenom II's). since I want the best performance for my money for my main game rig.
for my secondary PC/PC's which ever I get the best deal on I'll go with AMD or Intel.
I would of gone AMD again, had engracio not donated that intel mobo and case to me. to use with my recently bought Pentium Dual Core CPU. I had planned on making a small mini ITX system with it, and a new AMD dual or Triple core system to replace the current AMD X2 system I had (Socket AM2)...
but anyways, after all that confusion, I'm down to only Intel systems running right now.
and be getting an older Socket 939 Dual Core Opteron system up and running in the coming months.
either way, as long as you get one of the newer Phenom II X3 or X4 based AM3 systems, or an Intel i7 or i5 when it comes out, you really can't go wrong, either system will provide more than enough performance for your needs.
the key for gaming though is just matching up your Video card selections to a CPU/Mobo combo that will be able to handle the data bandwidth needed not to bottleneck the card.
of which AMD and Intel systems all currently can handle. | |
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