will this computer run bf3 on high settings if upgraded?

**a_bakedpotato** · February 27th, 2012, 11:59 AM

will this computer run bf3 on high settings if upgraded? Desktops Classifieds for Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming | ksl.com

i was thinking that i can just get a good $150 graphics card for it, would it beable to handle bf3 on mid-high settings with ~40 fps? if so what graphics card would you recommend

**GroundZero3** · February 27th, 2012, 12:02 PM

It all depends on the video card and the power supply, the power supply is another thing you need to take into consideration

**ShyguyXPC** · February 27th, 2012, 12:10 PM

what happened with this one?

http://www.techimo.com/forum/general...gs-40-fps.html

GZ, maybe you can merge THIS thread, that one linked above, and this 3rd one, since its all the same topics rather than having a ton of these all over...

will this computer run bf3?

**stroyal** · February 27th, 2012, 12:20 PM

This it?

HP Pavilion p6537c Desktop PC Product Specifications HP Pavilion p6537c Desktop PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

A $150 graphics card, is going to need a 400watt power supply, maybe even 500w, if you find a good deal.

You only have a 250watt, so any upgrade will include a power supply, in the $50 range.

**ShyguyXPC** · February 27th, 2012, 12:56 PM

I'd also be wary of the so called 6 month warranty, is this from the seller, or from HP who made the PC, if the latter, since the PC was made in 2010... I would guess the 6 month Warranty would be up on it, unless its some sort of Extended Warranty deal on it.

Look ----->>> Desktops Classifieds for Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming | ksl.com

Desktops Classifieds for Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming | ksl.com

Toss out the crap Diablotek PSU on that one and get a better PSU.

another decent one, if that GTS 450 came stock with the system, the PSU should be enough for it: Desktops Classifieds for Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming | ksl.com

Bit older, but would price would allow you to add in a good PSU and GPU upgrade with in budget as well.

Desktops Classifieds for Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming | ksl.com

Could easily get a good 500W Range PSU and a $150 Range GPU.

**a_bakedpotato** · February 27th, 2012, 01:21 PM

sorry for new topic, can i merge it with my old one? the one that i was talking about earlier, the guy turned out to be an a** after we settled on the price he went behind my back and sold it to some one else for $10 more with out telling me, o well, thats the internet i guess

. about the new one: i dont care about the warranty, as for the the graphics card i was thinking this one:Newegg.com - ASUS EAH6770/DI/1GD5 Radeon HD 6770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card whats the cheapest power supply off of new egg that should be able to run this system? if i get this card and a good psu for it should i be able to bf3 well?

or would this one be better all around? (just the tower): Desktops Classifieds for Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming | ksl.com

**ShyguyXPC** · February 27th, 2012, 02:11 PM

With the first system in this thread, AMD Quad core.

better card, refurbished, cheaper: Newegg.com - Refurbished: EVGA 01G-P3-1556-RX GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Or even better yet: Newegg.com - Refurbished: EVGA 01G-P3-1371-RX GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Plus: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER GX 450W RS450-ACAAD3-US 450W ATX12V v2.31 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

you'll need to use a PCI Express 6 pin adapter with the PSU to connect to the card (EVGA usually includes at least one or two even with their Recertified Cards), but other than that, should be good to go. The GTX 460 would be the best choice, and should run BF3 at pretty good frame rate with moderate to above average settings.

**Carld** · February 27th, 2012, 03:44 PM

$150 and on high settings..

I don't think so

You maybe want a $250 video card or .. possibly a higher priced $350, unless we're talking used.

Also you are likely needing a PSU with at least 500w or 40a on the 12v rail. So that's going to be another $100 or more.

**ShyguyXPC** · February 27th, 2012, 03:52 PM

The GTX 460 1GB (256-bit memory bus) should be able to run it on higher moderate settings, and get at least 40fps, but this also depends on the resolution their running at too).

that CM GX 450W is a pretty efficient PSU, and gets a good 400+W (420W) on the +12V, more than enough for a system with a card in that price/performance range. Just lacks 2nd 6 pin connector.

but for High settings as you said, I agree they would need a good $250 range card (even the sub $250 range GTX 560 Ti's now that they are cheaper would be a good choice in that performance range), or even $300+ range,

Though with the new GTX 600 series looming nearby waiting to be released, and still as of yet, Radeon HD 78xx Series to be released, that $300+ performance range may finally come down to the $200-250 range, or less.

**ShyguyXPC** · February 27th, 2012, 04:18 PM

TheM1ghtyOne » Review of Battlefield 3 Running on GTX 460 SE

TheM1ghtyOne » Nvidia GeForce GTX 460 SE 1GB GDDR5 Review

I had to ask him about whether he was running an Actual SE model, which is actually lower spec than a full 1GB Model, or what. See if he responds back. But if that Is in deed a real SE model, the game runs pretty well on one of those 460's then. Should run even better on the full spec 1GB models.

I know in past reviews for the 460's, the SE usually performed in other games, comparable to the 550 Ti's performance range. Which made the SE utterly pointless to buy, unless it was on a great deal.

the 550 Ti uses less power, and generally was priced a bit cheaper at the time, now its vastly cheaper.

Though I rarely see any SE 460's around anymore.

After seeing this though, I have no worries about how my GTX 470 and Core i7 920 will run the game for my brother once he gets the older hardware.

And knowing that the "newer" i7 940 and GTX 560 Ti system I moved up to, will run the game even better yet than his LOL.

**a_bakedpotato** · February 27th, 2012, 04:27 PM

thanks for the help, but how about the second computer im asking about here: Desktops Classifieds for Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming | ksl.com it already has good psu and graphics card and its cheaper, i can get windows 7 for about $40 so total for this rig is only about $400, and the other one that we are discussing sound like it will be more like $650+ so which one will i get more bang for my buck?

**ShyguyXPC** · February 27th, 2012, 05:02 PM

PSU is crap, its a Newegg In house brand Unit. There are some Rosewill units that are ok, but most in general is crap. Without knowing which exact model it is, no way to tell.

By going with Socket 775 your also limiting yourself to upgrades as its a dead platform.

Sure there are plenty of Upgrade options for it, for CPU, but thats if you can find them down the road when you do.

X38 Chipset board, is old as well, its only saving grace is PCI Express 2.0 support. But it uses more expensive and older DDR2 RAM.

If for whatever reason you need to add more to it, its going to cost more down the road.

The CPU is going to be weaker than the AMD Quad system, it runs at a faster Clock speed, but overall its going to be a bit slower in performance than the AMD Quad with the game.

add in the slower Motherboard/Chipset/CPU Subsystem as well.

Though for the price, you could easily toss in a better upgraded Power Supply.

but you should still get decent gaming performance with that setup as well.

Its entirely up to you, the GTX 470 is a bit better card, but just so you know, the stock fan does run pretty loud.

Video I made last summer of my 470 in comparison to my GTX 285's stock fan.

yeah, its really that loud at times, so I'd recommend gaming with a headset or if you can run speakers extra loud, or have the PC away from the desk.

The card runs hot as well, easily getting to 90C in some games, though I have found most DirectX 9 based games tend to run it hotter than DX10 or 11 games.

But it will easily (on my setup) run games like Bad Company 2 nearly fully maxed with good frame rates, and games like Just Cause 2, COMPLETELY maxed at 1080p and well above that 40fps limit, usually much higher.

but then again I am running a Core i7 920 2.66GHz Quad core, and 6GB RAM, plus most of those games are run off a 250GB x2 RAID 0 Hard drive setup so they load faster as well.

But a good 500-550W Range PSU is all you'd need for it. The Motherboard does not support SLI only Crossfire so you won't be able to run 2 of those in SLI down the road, best you could do is run a 2nd lesser card for PhysX enabled games for a slight game improvement.

Or run a pair of comparable spec Radeon cards (Radeon 6870 or 6950 is below and above the GTX 470's range)

**a_bakedpotato** · February 27th, 2012, 06:12 PM

it sold

. so if i got the $50 psu and the refurbished $109 gpu you recommended for the first system, how many fps should i expect running bf3 on medium settings

**Bizkitkid2001** · February 27th, 2012, 06:17 PM

How does the 460 compare to the 285gtx? If a 285gtx can run Crysis and Crysis 2 at max settings buttery smooth, should it be able to handle BF3 at max graphics?

**a_bakedpotato** · February 27th, 2012, 06:43 PM

ok, i set up everything with seller and im buying tomorrow! thanks for all your help!

**ShyguyXPC** · February 27th, 2012, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Bizkitkid2001

How does the 460 compare to the 285gtx? If a 285gtx can run Crysis and Crysis 2 at max settings buttery smooth, should it be able to handle BF3 at max graphics?

from what I remember, the 460 was only a little better than the 285 when the 460 came out, mainly pulled ahead in DX11 based games over the 285.

as to the GPU, see if you can nab this one Newegg.com - EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1363-KR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Its a full 1GB 460, but slightly reduced memory bus, still should be capable of running BF3 at near similar frame rates as the full fledged one out of stock above.

otherwise, the GTX 550 Ti linked before would be your best bet for anything in that price range.

**a_bakedpotato** · February 29th, 2012, 06:38 PM

ok, so i purchased the computer and it runs great! i got $150 left over and i was looking at the card shuyguy recommended: Newegg.com - Refurbished: EVGA 01G-P3-1556-RX GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card what is the minimum watts i need to run this? i found a deal for a 430watt corsair here: Desktop Hardware and Accessories Classifieds for Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming | ksl.com and was wondering if it could run it and if it was a good price for it. also, if i get one with too much wattage is there a chance i could burn up my mobo? another thing, i dont want to get a really good graphics card and have the cpu hold it back, the computer i have has a quad core AMD Phenom II X4 830 2.80GHz cpu. will the card shy guy recommended be held back by my cpu?

**RicheemxX** · February 29th, 2012, 06:48 PM

Shy might chime in on the power requirements but you should be fine. I wouldn't buy that psu for $40 though. You can get it on-sale at newegg right now for $17 AFMIR Newegg.com - CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 (CMPSU-430CXV2) 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

**a_bakedpotato** · February 29th, 2012, 07:05 PM

how long does it take for the mail in rebate usually take?

**ShyguyXPC** · February 29th, 2012, 07:10 PM

yep, don't bother getting it from on that site, even if it is new, its from a 3rd party, at least with newegg, if its bad, you can return it to them get a new one or money back.

The One Rich linked I also suggested to someone last night, its $44.99 normally, but when you use the $8 Promo Code listed on the page, until March 5th, and then factor in the $20 Mail In Rebate (weeks later once you get the rebate card back) your total spent is about $17 or so on the whole thing.

Even with the $8 off Promo code its going to be cheaper from buying from that seller.

otherwise you'll be fine with that PSU.

And no your CPU won't hold ANY of the cards I listed back... Keep in mind your running a higher end Quad core, and the cards I've listed are cheap $150 or below range cards.

no where near held back by the CPU. you'd have to spend $350-500 AT LEAST to have a GPU held back by that CPU.

So to clarify, this was the system you bought?

Desktops Classifieds for Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming | ksl.com

Since you listed several you were looking at.

and no you won't burn up your system with a PSU thats too much, the PSU only draws as much power as needed by the system.

if you wanted to you could hook up a 1500W PSU to a tiny Pico ITX board/system only running less than 5W of power and never have to worry about burning up the PSU, as the system will only ever draw 5W or less.

A bit over the top example, but gets the point across.