EMF via router

[jacko49]

Got a new router Dir-825 (wireless N ) and it does a good job for my liking,
However i am concern about the EMF radiation thru the house,and wonder if any member here is also concern ?
i had a Linksys BEFSR81 WIRED for years,but couldn't find updated software
(what a company ) so i was forced to change ,any advice would greatly appreciated ,thanks

[RicheemxX]

I'm not a tin foil hat wearing type person so no. I think my cell phone would be more of a concern than my router would and its certainly not anywhere near my head.

Side note, there shouldn't be much reason for updated "software" on a router. Firmware updates are only occasionally needed and since you were running a wired router I don't see why you'd need anything beyond the updates on the linksys site.

[ShyguyXPC]

would have to agree with Rich, on both counts. Myself I just updated my Routers Firmware last night, only knew about it because I was digging around in the routers DNS settings, seeing if that would help with some lag and loading issues I have with every browser and Facebook. Seems using the Windows Command Prompt and ipconfig/flushdns repeatedly, as well as the occasional release/renew seems to give Facebook a decent kick in the ass to load right.

worked last time, using OpenDNS and some other DNS server IP's, but didn't work this time. Anyways, updated the Firmware while I was in there.


But I'm also using a Wireless N Router for all the mobile and what not systems elsewhere in the house (Phone, Nintendo Wii, Sony PSP, Wireless Printer, etc), and my main rig is wired to the router.

before that I used a Wireless G Router for a few years, and before that a wired Linksys Router I bought from Evil Rick over on Reseller Ratings quite a few years back.

[jacko49]

I'm not a tin foil hat wearing type person so no.
Side note, there shouldn't be much reason for updated "software" on a router. Firmware updates are only occasionally needed and since you were running a wired router I don't see why you'd need anything beyond the updates on the linksys site.

would have to agree with Rich, on both counts. Myself I just updated my Routers Firmware last night, only knew about it because I was digging around in the routers DNS settings, seeing if that would help with some lag and loading issues I have with every browser and Facebook. Seems using the Windows Command Prompt and ipconfig/flushdns repeatedly, as well as the occasional release/renew seems to give Facebook a decent kick in the ass to load right.

worked last time, using OpenDNS and some other DNS server IP's, but didn't work this time. Anyways, updated the Firmware while I was in there.




before that I used a Wireless G Router for a few years, and before that a wired Linksys Router I bought from Evil Rick over on Reseller Ratings quite a few years back.

Thanks Rich & shy for the fast reply,i basically had the same problems as Shy ,and the linksys would drop and start ,cut off etc. so i figured old papa
aged,but wonder if any of you would have been able to rejuvenate it again as i had 6 wired comp on it,still worried about EMF (google :is hifi dangerous to your health ) thanks again

[Interrupt]

Also I'd like to just add that some routers will act up if you even try to upgrade the firmware on the device even if you download the update from the manufacturer's homepage. :/ I know that from personal experience with my Actiontec MI42WR. I'd love to update the firmware to see if the update contains any useful improvements over the firewall, packet tunneling, etc. But last time I tried on the same model I botched up the setup and had to reset.

As they said, unless you have a specific problem you wish to fix, upgrading the router's firmware isn't worth it. Wireless or not. That's my opinion anyhow.

Edit - oh sorry man, looks like we posted at the same time. Heh, anyway, don't worry about the radiation. If anything it is so infinitesimal you get more just from walking past Verizon/Mall/insert any public location here.

[jacko49]

Also I'd like to just add that some routers will act up if you even try to upgrade the firmware on the device even if you download the update from the manufacturer's homepage. :/ I know that from personal experience with my Actiontec MI42WR. I'd love to update the firmware to see if the update contains any useful improvements over the firewall, packet tunneling, etc. But last time I tried on the same model I botched up the setup and had to reset.

As they said, unless you have a specific problem you wish to fix, upgrading the router's firmware isn't worth it. Wireless or not. That's my opinion anyhow.

Edit - oh sorry man, looks like we posted at the same time. Heh, anyway, don't worry about the radiation. If anything it is so infinitesimal you get more just from walking past Verizon/Mall/insert any public location here.

Thank you Interrupt (no you didn't J/K ) like you said : upgrading the router's firmware isn't worth it. buying foil by the yard

[Interrupt]

Thank you Interrupt (no you didn't J/K ) like you said : upgrading the router's firmware isn't worth it. buying foil by the yard

I'm good like that.

Home electronics can cause the following health problems (4):

• Irregular Behavioral Patterns in Children.
• Problems with the Skin, or even Skin Cancer
• Hypersensitivity & Increased Blood Pressure
• A Constant Feeling of Melancholy or Depression
• A Chronic State of Exhaustion & Fatigue
• A Disruption in Sleep Patterns
• Frequent & Severe Headaches
• Abdominal Pain, Constipation, Diarrhea

Heh, does your stomach hurt yet? It will!!! You'll be spending all night in the bathroom soon enough. XD

[jacko49]

It ain't that bad yet, just got 6 out of 8 symptoms you described ,and thanks to you ,the hourglass is still going

thanks for the fun

[Taxmancometh]

I have the router strapped to my head, it doesn't bother me...

[ShyguyXPC]

other than the fact every so often when you need to reboot the thing, you have a habit of falling asleep for a couple minutes till its back up and running...

[Interrupt]

other than the fact every so often when you need to reboot the thing, you have a habit of falling asleep for a couple minutes till its back up and running...

What are you trying to say exactly... that you don't walk around with a generator strapped to your back like the rest of us in case of power outages? Seesh... Shyguy is too good to slum it like the rest of us.

I hope you don't mind me sharing your photo, Taxman.

See here's an example of what he looks like when he straps the router to his head...



(I think APC makes those...? Okay... sorry, OP. I crack myself up way too much... and no I don't think that's Taxman, at least I hope not.)

[ShyguyXPC]

nah, with me, instead of strapping the thing to myself, I have to actually step into mine, like piloting a 100 ton Thermonuclear Fusion Powered Mech... Even comes with a useful ejection seat if things go awry.

Though for something a tad bit more mobile I use something like an E-Frame from Exo Squad, or one of the "Gears" from The Heavy Gear series... bit smaller, nimble, and just as capable.

[Taxmancometh]

Wow! how did you get that photo of me. I always go ghost busting.

[ShyguyXPC]

Just remember to NEVER Cross the Streams.

[Taxmancometh]

Yep! Did that once and now my hair stands on end.

[RicheemxX]

Wow I leave for a few hours and you guys get all crazy!!

But in all seriousness routers don't put out enough RF, EMF or any kind of radiation for that matter for it to matter that much. Strap it to your head like we do a cell phone and maybe in 20-30yrs it'll matter.

[Interrupt]

Yep! Did that once and now my hair stands on end.

I crossed streams once in elementary school and I went home soaking wet. Stupid kid. How should I know what that meant?

But in all seriousness routers don't put out enough RF, EMF or any kind of radiation for that matter for it to matter that much. Strap it to your head like we do a cell phone and maybe in 20-30yrs it'll matter.

Yeah, plus the research: Cell phone radiation levels - CNET Reviews (site contains real world science on the matter in case you're interested, OP).

Research abounds, but there still is not conclusive or demonstrated evidence as to whether cell phones cause adverse health effects in humans. While some studies have found a possible link between long-term (10 years or longer) cell phone use and brain tumors, decreased sperm count, and other ailments, other research has found no such effects. The science will continue, and we will continue to monitor the results, but it can take years of exhaustive research before studies actually prove anything (if they ever do).

Which reads to me that the science saying that maybe it does cause problems is pretty much bullshoot. If a consensus hasn't been reached in 15 years it isn't likely to be reached in the next decade. You're safe, man. And if you ain't? The generation prior had smoking to deal with.

You ever see those old movies of folks sucking down the cancer sticks like they were ice pops?

Some got cancer. True, some died of old age well past 90. Nothing is certain in life but half-baked science is less certain than some.

[jacko49]

Wow I leave for a few hours and you guys get all crazy!!

That's because of so many hidden talents as a potential stand up comedians

last man standing gets a Hershey bar

thanks everyone here

[Epidemic]

I have spent the last 25 years in high RF environment. My bowels are regular, my skin is only abused by the sun, I am never depressed, i sleep fine, now as for fatigue well I am lazy and middle aged I could have more get up and go butttt I think that is just me, i almost never get head aches 4 or 5 in the last decade.

I have had a phone strapped to me for the last 25 years, well for a while it was in the car but much higher power. I have walked into fields that approach and possibly sometimes exceed the standard for emf exposure.

I am not too worried about it.

Add to that the fact that virtually every human being in the west has a cell phone for more than a decade, if there were a problem I would think that a huge cancer/illness spike would be evident, not just random possible links.

I won't say it is absolutely safe but I would bet you could find a more convincing link to people who die young from stress associated with junk science.



I have a coworker who is convinced that he is RF sensitive. He is a regular guy who claims to feel your phone polling for the weather. almost as if someone had turned a heat lamp on . Not that he gets hot but the feeling is as strong as that.

He is otherwise a very rational guy so I give some credability to him and if it is real I would contend that RF-Sensitives may exist just like birds feel the magnetic polls perhaps there is the rare human with an abnormality that makes them sensitive.

Although he wont let me do a double blind test behind the wall with him to prove it to me. He wears a lead lined hat, and chest protector and at home lives in a faraday cage at home. He rarely ventures out because he feels the RF in the modern world is causing him real problems.

Other than the possibility of RF sensitives being alergic to an otherwise harmless energy, the next level of damage cause by rf is thermal. The power levels you receive from your wireless router would likely not raise the temperature in our cells even 1 degree if you wore it as a hat.

I would have to wonder if thinking would make more temperature changes on a cellular level than your cell phone. exercise can raise your temperature by nearly 6 degrees according to the first site I found. I would think your blood could carry any thermal increase off before it even came close to that in your brain or gut.

[Networker4321]

Also I'd like to just add that some routers will act up if you even try to upgrade the firmware on the device even if you download the update from the manufacturer's homepage. :/ I know that from personal experience with my Actiontec MI42WR. I'd love to update the firmware to see if the update contains any useful improvements over the firewall, packet tunneling, etc. But last time I tried on the same model I botched up the setup and had to reset.

As they said, unless you have a specific problem you wish to fix, upgrading the router's firmware isn't worth it. Wireless or not. That's my opinion anyhow.

Edit - oh sorry man, looks like we posted at the same time. Heh, anyway, don't worry about the radiation. If anything it is so infinitesimal you get more just from walking past Verizon/Mall/insert any public location here.

Just a check in to agree with the issues in doing most firmware upgrades. I had an E4200 Linksys/Cisco wireless/wired router less than 8 months old that I bought new from a member of this forum since I had another one I had purchased from WalMart and loved it.

I went in through the control interface and went to the correct section. It was the V2 upg, the only one that came out for this model. Everything looked perfect, progress bar completed and then it said "The firmware update failed." It had been working perfectly, no issues, why oh why did I attempt the upgrade?

Worse than that it completely bricked the router. I have done every reset I could find on the web. Even the 30/30/30 reset. Then tried loading dd-wrt and couldn't get into the router at all, tried 2 or 3 different browsers trying to get into 192.168.1.1. Some articles even mentioned the IP might have changed to 2.1. And, that the new PW could be "root". No love at all and I really need to get this router back up. Right now I am using a nice, old 160N Cisco but it isn't a tri-antenna, no good distance but, at least I have connectivity!

I will go to the correct forum and post what I have done, maybe somebody will have the CURE. what a sad waste,,,