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    Hidden IE Folders that Track YOU!

    There are actually files that you cannot see with MS Windows that track everything you do in IE and OE.

    See for yourself:

    http://www.astalavista.com/library/o...8/mshidden.txt

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    AHHHHHH MICROSHAFT, what would we do without there prods.

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    This is a bit of an urban legend IMO.

    Yes IE stores your history, and not everything is deleted as expected when you tell IE to "Clear" your history, but I don't believe there is anything other than rumor and speculation that indicates that Microsoft (or anyone else) uses this information for any type of "tracking".

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    Mayber they are, maybe they aren't. I saw a much more indepth article on this a few months back. The whole issue is they have given themselves the ability to do this, while misleading the consumer into thinking that they have deleted all local history of their internet use. Why would they need to log every URL, search keyword etc. that you have typed? I am sure that creating this file does in no way boost internet performance or overall performance in any way. Fortunately I can toast these files from mandrake whenever I feel like it. Personally I see it as an intrusion for them to log everything and then attempt to keep it hidden, i.e. dir's dont even show in DOS, let alone windows explorer. If you are going to do it, at least dont dupe the consumer into believing that they have deleted all local history. Some of us don't want to delete these things to cover tracks, some of us just value our privacy.

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    Worst art about the hidden stuff is that it can take up some space, i have moved my temp internet file etc... via editing the registry so that everything is in my own folder "net temps", then under that i have "cookies", "history", "temp internet files", everynow and then i deltree c:\net temps and bang it clears it all up. Last time i done this is took over an hour to do from dos, and it actually cleared up about 1gig of junk.

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    Thanks Cody! Some of it I haven't heard about.

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    No Problem... thought I ought to let you know (some of this article is true... others exagerated)

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    Thanks for that link Cody, I didn't really know this.

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    Hmm that will be a job to track all those millions users which site they visit. Even for a robot it is a difficult job.

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    If running XP, one way to see them is locate the folder they are in by going to a dos command prompt ( "Start > Run > CMD " ) and type dir /s *.gif

    Now that you have the folder name, close IE, open Windows Explorer, and type the folder name in, then they will show up as long as you have hidden files set to display.

    You can delete them from dos or explorer, once you navigate to the folder.
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    I don't understand.
    With "dir /s *.gif" you give a search command on *.gif and then list the locations. BTW, the list can be long so you need to ad something so the command would be:
    dir /s *.gif|more

    And then?

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    Okay understand. Hey its weekend. Th(r)inking only about beer.

    So this is what I did.
    1) Clean internetfiles via IE>options>remove temporarly files.
    2) Use the dir /s *.gif|more in cmd

    This shows several folders with files:

    *****screendump*****
    Microsoft Windows XP [versie 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    D:\Documents and Settings\André.FOOL-3471SB6T00>dir /s *.gif|more
    De volumenaam van station D is WINXP
    Het volumenummer is F8E3-00F5

    Map van D:\Documents and Settings\André.FOOL-3471SB6T00\Local Settings\Temporar
    y Internet Files\Content.IE5\O1WXGBUV

    01-12-2001 16:59 552 top_logout[1].gif
    01-12-2001 16:59 1.666 reply[1].gif
    01-12-2001 16:59 427 gallery4[1].gif
    01-12-2001 16:59 1.572 avatar296_4[1].gif
    01-12-2001 16:59 390 subscribe[1].gif
    01-12-2001 16:59 304 click7-7[1].gif
    6 bestand(en) 4.911 bytes

    Map van D:\Documents and Settings\André.FOOL-3471SB6T00\Local Settings\Temporar
    y Internet Files\Content.IE5\4XID0TSB

    01-12-2001 16:59 373 frown[1].gif
    01-12-2001 16:59 883 mod_perl[1].gif
    01-12-2001 16:59 298 click4-4[1].gif
    3 bestand(en) 1.554 bytes

    Map van D:\Documents and Settings\André.FOOL-3471SB6T00\Local Settings\Temporar
    y Internet Files\Content.IE5\O7EJW3GH

    01-12-2001 16:59 604 vb_bullet[1].gif
    01-12-2001 16:59 396 off[1].gif
    01-12-2001 16:59 507 edit[1].gif
    01-12-2001 16:59 9.917 avatar734_6[1].gif
    01-12-2001 16:59 1.671 avatar16_1[1].gif
    01-12-2001 16:59 463 click5-5[1].gif
    6 bestand(en) 13.558 bytes

    -- Meer --

    *****screendump*****

    sorry its dutch but you get the idea

    Then went to explorer and typed (copy+paste) the directories and deleted the files.

    But this is some job and does it delete all files?
    couldn't you just make a batchfile that deletes all the dirs in "Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\" ?

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    I was thinking about making a script to run on logon that would identify the folders and delete them. I like using the deltree command from Win98, copy it to the system folder and it will work fine from command line.

    Then again, I have to do a lot of work to make that script, maybe some other sucker with less of a life will do it first
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    I definitely wish there was an easy way to get Windows Explorer to view those hidden files and not have to go off and purchase a new piece of software to do it.

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    No need to purchase any software if you boot linux. Linux can view and nuke those like no one's business Was trying it the DOS way but it was too hard so I gave Linux a shot

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    A script running at startup would be nice indeed, that way its deleted. The problem the files can only be deleted if they are not marked as system and hidden files.

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    Not Much of a Mystery?

    Aloha
    I have been using WindowWasher for Couple years and it states the following about locked Dat files and this has been common knowledge for sometime!?

    "Note: index.dat and mmxxx.dat files will only be cleaned after a wash is run and Windows is rebooted.
    This is because these files are LOCKED during a Windows session.
    Washer cleans these files during a reboot before they become locked.
    After Windows has restarted, new files are automatically created with the same name but they contain no data."

    Who ever wrote that article mest have finally read his help file on his window washer and tried to show how clever he was!?
    Washer www.webroot.com is Awesome and deletes what ever I like when I like and even over writes the space-Bleaches it!!
    Very COOL!
    Bob

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    Boot to DOS

    deltree /temp

    hit enter..

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    I thought this all sounded familiar, but I didn't realize it was 4/18/99 when CMonster first posted about this issue. It was again addressed on 6/25/00 by Socalgal.

    As far as I can tell, the solution for those wanting to deleted these files and folders is as easy as adding;
    c:\windows>deltree /y tempor~1
    to your autoexec.bat

    ("tempor~1" is the MS-Dos name for your TIF directory)
    (skip the /y switch if you want to confirm the deltree command everytime you boot)
    Last edited by Fingers; December 1st, 2001 at 07:57 PM.

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    Tried Window Washer and it was amazing. Maybe too amazing. Now I gotta manually log in to all the places I had cookies set for, like Tech IMO Those kinda cookes I don't mind. I'll need to play with that and see what is possible by way of retaining them.
    There's only two things in life. But I forget what they are.

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