Thread: Font or Shape????
April 29th, 2008, 10:24 AM #1
Font or Shape????
I been working on our church website and we have two logos. The one logo we decided to basically dump and not going to use it.
OuT: That is the one that I was talking about that could not recreate it. We decided to dump that one but............................................... .........................
We are keeping the I but want it redesigned.
Right now my problem is that I can not determine if the I is a shape or if its a font. I am hoping its a font because I can't figure out how to recreate it by shape.
I can extract the I out and be able to use it for other things and I can basically recreate the entire thing. (don't have original psd file for it)
So I need to find out if this is a font or shape.
Anyone reconize this letter? (no smartasses either. i.e. Its the letter I silly! )
April 29th, 2008, 11:30 AM #2
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April 29th, 2008, 11:46 AM #3
You're going to need to attach the image, Neo.
April 29th, 2008, 12:44 PM #4
Oh duh man, I got a really bad habit of forgetting to attach images. hahhahaha
I am forever getting emails back from my bosses "uh karin am I suppose to be looking at something?"
April 29th, 2008, 01:22 PM #5
It's most likely a font.
April 29th, 2008, 01:42 PM #6
April 29th, 2008, 01:59 PM #7
April 29th, 2008, 02:41 PM #8
Well, I hope this doesn't throw you for a loop Neo, but the truth is:
Fonts are shapes.
That "i" could be from a font set, but it doesn't matter. No need wasting time trying to find the font set. If you need the "i" extracted from image then the quickest and best way to do that is to trace it with the Pen Tool.
April 29th, 2008, 02:57 PM #9
Out is correct (as usual). Trace it and you have it for whatever you want. If it is a font and you could try www.whatthefont.com to see if they could figure it out for you.I don't like signatures.
April 29th, 2008, 02:58 PM #10
April 29th, 2008, 04:23 PM #11
Oh geezze man I really like that green one. :drool:
How'd you do that, i been working with glass effects and I am not getting anything remotly that I like.
Okay back to the topic.
Okay font = shapes and shapes = fonts. interesting! New perpective to look at things.
Second, How I have extracted it at this point is using the bucket to fill the "i" and then use the magic wand to select the areas I want removed hit the backspace to remove it, then crop center portion out to get rid of the left over garbage and go from there. But that leaves me with problems of resizing it, free transform ends up tweaking it wrong if you don't do it just perfect.
So I like your idea and want to try it.
So heres my enxt question.
Once I figure out how to trace it with pen tool (not used that tool much yet)
How can I take this shape and then turn it into a brush or stamp? That way i can keep using it for stuff????
Or am I asking a loaded question?
checking out what I can do now.
April 29th, 2008, 04:53 PM #12
Unfortunately I'm heading out the door right now. I'll be back later tonight.
If you can, do your best to figure out the Pen Tool. That is the ONLY way to properly extract the "i", especially if you want to make it a shape to save and use in other places and in other images.
Search the forum here for pen tool or vector or shapes. I've talked about this subject many, many times before. Like I said, I'll be back later to help some more. Plus I'm not the only one with such knowledge, others are encouraged to help too, coughMartochcough.
(creepy i outside your window)
April 29th, 2008, 05:01 PM #13
I'm already playing with the pen tool. I did it once with max zoom so I can see the pixels. but I already discovered that leaves me with pixel errors. I'm gonna keep playing with it today.
I can see how the pen tool is handy.
OuT: Would you please teach how you are doing that glassy transparent I in the creepy outside i pic. That is something similar I am trying to acheave for the backgrounds of photos for a "stamp/watermark" Don't want an actual water mark but something in the background for our staff photos. I got abotu 6 logo samples right now based off the same logo you see above but I am trying to acheive a different effect. You are really close on the glassy i creepy one.
Catch ya later tonight. Gonna play with my ps.
Last edited by NeoStarO1; April 29th, 2008 at 05:05 PM.
April 30th, 2008, 12:13 AM #14
Ok, you want to know how to make the transparent "i"? Does that mean I can assume you figured out the Pen Tool and made the "i" shape? Because starting at the beginning is usually best.
The transparent effect is really simple.
- Choose the shape layer in the Layers palette, and lower it's FILL to 0%. (picture 1)
- Double click in the right-hand area of that layer inside the Layer palette. (picture 2)
- Choose Bevel and Emboss and adjust the Size accordingly. (picture 3)
April 30th, 2008, 02:05 AM #15
Yes I was able to extract the I in two ways and also managed to make a 256 pixel brush.
I will look at this tommorrow right now I am plumb tired.
I'll explain my method of craziness to extract the i.
I also learned how to do it your way. I need more practice at it though. I can see a few spots where my paths were slight pixels off.
April 30th, 2008, 04:37 AM #16
This is why I want you to learn about Paths. You say yours are a few pixels off. That's not a problem, because Paths are not locked in. They are totally flexible, changeable, and fixable. The vertices (points where 2 lines connect) can be moved and altered at any time. The amount of curve given to the lines can also be altered at any time. What this means is when you create a shape you don't have to create it perfect the first time. After you've made the shape you can easily go back and edit the shape, fine tuning the placement of points and the shape of curves, etc. You continue this process until you have your shape perfected.
Why go though all the trouble to create a perfect shape? Because shapes are vector in nature. That means they can be resized, edited, customized with NO loss in quality. The same shape you might use to stamp in the corner of a small image file could be enlarged enough to use on highway billboard with no quality loss.
If you want to, upload your .psd file (or email it to me) or just post a screenshot of the shape you made so I can check it out and maybe give some advice. Here's what my shape looks like:
April 30th, 2008, 09:18 AM #17
Well I am not sure how you are doing that with just 4 points for each section there. I don't see how you can change the path lines once the path is closed.
I just emailed you. hopefully its still the same address. LOL
April 30th, 2008, 09:31 AM #18
OMG This tool is AWESOME!!!! My mind is totally exploding with ideas now. Whoo Hoo!
Found a really good tutorial online to help me understand the pen tool and paths, deleting adding, curatures and all. Whoaaaaaa.
Heres the tutorial I studied from just now.
April 30th, 2008, 09:48 AM #19
That looks like a decent tutorial... but be sure to check this...
This is THE quintessential Pen Tool tutorial. It's fairly long (5 pages) and gives lots of background information about the Pen Tool before it even attempts to guide you through a "how-to" session. Personally I hate most tutorials because they just show you the steps on how to do something. I hate learning (actually memorizing would better describe it) steps and precise procedures. Very difficult to get them to "stick" in the brain. I love learning concepts and understanding why to do certain things not just how to do them.
The Pen Tool is radically different than any other Photoshop tool. Due to this fact it's awkward and difficult to learn for most Photoshoppers. Having an understanding of what the Pen Tool is and why it's so powerful will greatly alleviate much of the awkwardness and difficulty. So take your time and read every word of this tutorial. (You're just gonna have to trust me, it is worth the effort).
Pen Tool Tutorial: http://www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorial/pen/
April 30th, 2008, 10:05 AM #20
I will read it. This pen tool amazes me. Im already playing hard with it. That first file I sent you is really newb! you'll see that and probably have a very nice laugh at me once you see how many anchor points there are. OMG
I will most definatly read that. Although I think I am going to take a good long break (day off?_)today. Been working too hard, too long of hours and need a break.
I actually do better with the short how to. But I am definatly going to trust you and read that later today as I am already brimming with ideas with that nifty little tool.
OuT thank you so much for your patiences with me.
I'll be back later!
BTW I accidently (sorta on purpose) discovered how to make a custom shape and turn it into a custom shape pattern. I am starting to begin to understand how people duplicate thier own work all the time.
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