quick silver u should read the review of the 3870 and the cheaper 3850 both are dx 10.1 and hav 4.1 model p s , that what it says in its review but u are right in one point that the 8800 is the best card for gaming by all mean so I think u should wait for it , but there is also a problem waiting by the time u get it dx 10.1 cards are goin to hit the market