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Topic: Alright folks After a lot of research i've decided to get an nvidia 8600gts graphics card for my pc... its not an AMAZING card but it'll do very nicely, and fits in with my pc/budget (and i don't have a PCIe-2.0 slot, s...
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Old July 20th, 2008, 08:59 AM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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Help, wise gamer needed! What Nvidia 8600gts should i get?

Alright folks

After a lot of research i've decided to get an nvidia 8600gts graphics card for my pc... its not an AMAZING card but it'll do very nicely, and fits in with my pc/budget (and i don't have a PCIe-2.0 slot, so pls don't reccomend anything else!)

So the last question is... which version to get?

I've made a little table comparing XFX's versions of the 8600gts:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...cture4-1-1.jpg (pls open it in a new window, click to zoom in)

I think the competition is between the:
1) Standard 512mb (far right)
2) XXX 256mb (far left)

On one hand, the standard has a higher 512mb memory size and runs at at a higher memory interface bus of 256 bits.

But on the other, the XXX has a higher GPU clock (+55MHz), higher shader clock (+120MHz), higher texture fill rate (+0.88 billion/sec) and higher memory clock (+260MHz) BUT ONLY HAS A 256MB MEMORY SIZE WITH A 128 BIT BUS!

So what do you reckon is best? Bioshock reccomends a 512mb card...

Thanks,
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Old July 20th, 2008, 09:09 AM     #2 (permalink)
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the 8600gt is (decent) as i used to have one... but to be honest.. (not sure what you mean by PCI-e 2.0 slot... as most cards are backwards compatable... I would go with a standard 8800gs pci-e card, you will notice a huge difference, as that's what i just upgraded to... it's still not the TOP of the line card.. but it improves game play a lot more over the 8600gt ...
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Newegg.com - GeForce 8800 GS, GeForce 8 series, Desktop Graphics / Video Cards, Video Cards & Video Devices, Computer Hardware

I run an 8800 gs 384mb superclocked eVga and it about doubles the 8600gt 256mb I had.

it's a little bit more in price... but not sure how much your willing to spend...

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hey thanks for the advice mate,

its actually an 8600GTS, and the xxx edition is a lot faster than the 8600gt.

i didn't know that the cards were backward compatible though, thanks
i'll check out that 8800gs

but if i were to decide between the 8600gts xxx or 512mb model, which would you reccomend? is it worth getting a higher memory and bit rate?

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i really couldn't tell you... i've noticed a few threads about people saying that if you get the card ... the plug they supply (6 pin) has 2 molex connectors comming off of it.. if you plug in just one.. you will get the 128bit interface.. but if you plug in 2 4pin plugs from your power supply to the 6 pin that plugs into the card.. you will get the full 256bit interface.. not sure if it applies to the 128 bit cards ... i still would go with the xxx model though...if you decide to stay with the 8600gt series
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What's your budget freesalute?
fxvideocards has brought up the 8800gts sale once again!

ZOTAC ZT-88SES2P-FSP | ZOTAC GeForce 8800 GTS | ZOTAC GeForce 8800 GTS G92 512MB ZT-88SES2P-FSP 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI ZOTAC Video Card

This card will kick the 8600 (whatever version) ass!
I would reconsider if I were you...
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Newegg.com - GeForce 8800 GS, GeForce 8 series, Desktop Graphics / Video Cards, Video Cards & Video Devices, Computer Hardware

I run an 8800 gs 384mb superclocked eVga and it about doubles the 8600gt 256mb I had.

it's a little bit more in price... but not sure how much your willing to spend...
the main reason for that, is it has 3 times more stream processors as well, which makes up a lot of that performance increase.

also to freesalute, I agree with what Sweeper suggests, think about grabbing one of the 8800GS models, Newegg usually has one or two, that after rebates, is well with in the 8600GTS's price range, with 3 times the stream processors & more than double the performance, its a sweet deal.

the 8800GS & 9600GSO are similar in some specs to the 320MB 8800GTS I WAS running, & suspect the performance was similar. I moved up from a Geforce 7800GT to that card, the 7800GT was one of the top of the line cards of the 7000 series, of which the 7600GT was part of (upper middle of the lineup, 8600GT replaced 7600GS, 8600GTS replaced 7600GT), the 8600GTS replaced the 7600GT, & performance was on par with it, only benefit to the 8600GTS was DirectX 10 support... & new architecture using the more "universal" Stream Processors design, instead of dedicated shaders/processors for specific functions.

but when I moved from my 7800GT to my 1st 8800GTS, I easily saw at least a 100% if not in some games a decent 150% increase in performance... so to sort of put that into perspective of what one could get with an 8800GS compared to an 8600GTS...

but depending on what your budget is, & how your Power Supply is standing, the deal eagle posted is a nice one as well, even MORE performance, at least a good 30-40% more from that card over the 8800GS. my NEW 8800GTS is one of those cards, different brand, but same GPU Core & Memory. also picked up mine dirt cheap on newegg, as an Open Box Item, that wasn't exactly open box per-say, it was an Opened Box & that was it, still new in bag/package, all accessories, manual, Driver CD, etc, for $129 vs new price of $200+ (no rebates with it either).

its also PCI-E 16x 2.0 & I & eagle both only run PCI-E 16x 1.0/1.1 slots with ours. so the backwards compatible thing is true.

as far as that one card, 8600GTS 512MB having a 256-bit interface? BS, as far as I know ALL 8600GT & GTS models are 128-bit memory... it could be their doing some sort of thing, with 2 instances of 256MB's of memory on 2x 128-bit bus's giving an "effective" 256-bit bus, but its most likely still 128-bit memory bus.

thats how the 8800 series got its insane bus bit rates... in fact if I'm not mistaken same with 8800GS, GTS 320MB/640MB/512MB & 1GB, 8800GTX/Ultra 768MB, etc etc... the insane bus widths exceeding beyond 256 bit is actually several bus's combined as one "effective" bus width... something sort of along the lines of system memory running in dual channel mode, 2x 64-bit memory sticks running together as a single 128-bit chunk of RAM... not exactly same thing, but the principal's/fundamentals are similar...

if I remember right, one company did something similar with the 7600GT's or 6600GT's one time, ran double the amount of what used to be the max amount for the card, & it was more or less a marketing thing to say it had 256bit memory bus, when it didn't really.

but this model could be something different too, just not sure.

as far as which games your running, what resolutions are you running at, that can be a deciding factor too... me personally if I was running fairly high resolutions, & that card truly does have a 256-bit memory interface, I'd go for that one, but if I was running at say 1024x768 or 1280x1024, I'd go for the faster clocked card with 256MB...

but then again, if it was truly me doing this, I'd go for niether, I'd end up grabbing the 8800GS, or opting for a top of the line card from the previous DirectX 9 series cards out there (many can be found now days on certain sites for well under the $100 range, even as low as $60-80 ), Radeon X1900/1950 series or a Geforce 7900/7950 series, as their directX 9 performance should be superior to the 8600's. as for DirectX 10, anything that demanding, as far as DirectX 10's "superior" graphics capabilities, the 8600 Series won't handle it well anyways, due to less than desired specs, unless running at relatively low resolutions.
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