need some graphics cards help.

mws23 · February 16th, 2009, 11:11 PM

hello. i am 15 years old. i have a long story and need major help. well i have a compaq presario SR1930NX with a p4 3.08 ghz. i also have a 300 watts power source. came with 512mb ram. i up did and grade it to 2 gigs which is max. i play cs:s and wow. my fps is really bad. so i bought a pci card which is the nvidia 6200. little did i know what i have a pci-e x16. im pretty pissed cause i wasted 70 bucks on this crappy graph card. the 6200 blows. i just hit about 150 max and 20 fps min. i went back to my ati xpress 200 integrated chipset. my fps with 20 ppl in room is always 9. now this is my question. is 2.0 and pci-e 16x compatible ? i also need OPINIONS on which graphics caard i should purchase. i dont want to waste money. i have about 140 right now and i am trying to sell my 6200 for 55 bucks. what i am wondering is which graph card i should get to play WoW and CS:S highest qualities at 1024*768. keep in mind i have 140 plus a 55 i do not have yet. i still need some money to get some gamecards and WOTLK. THANKS ! i need experts PLEASE. im still 15 and noob but as you can see i want to get serious. i know my computer sucks so bad, everything nowadays is dual core but i just dont got the money. THANKS ! please HELP ME !

p.s.
i live in canada so yeah. and uhm also someone referred me to buy a intel duo core 2.8 ghz for 88 but i dunno. keep in mind i do not have a lot of money. i cant buy a new system. i just wanna keep the current one i have but make it better. thanks. i trust in you computer experts.

p.p.s
someone referrred me a HD radeon 3670. the PSU is 400 mine is only 300. im really confused so help me out here. please suggest some graphics cards.

Ultima · February 17th, 2009, 04:40 AM

Uhm, did you buy that 6200 new in store?? If so, you should be able to return it me thinks.

As you can see here:

Motherboard Specifications, P5LP-LE (Altair)*

your motherboard does NOT support the Core2Duo cpus, only at best the Pentium D, so no go there.
Your best bet is indeed to get a better powersupply and then a somewhat better videocard.

Only problem is, you have a Compaq case, so not all powersupplies will fit in there.

I would get a 400 or 450W powersupply and a 3850 or something.

mws23 · February 17th, 2009, 09:43 PM

yo ultima. thanks dude. i am planning on getting a 500 w psu and a 9500 gt gpu. heres my psu i am planning to purchase. tell me if its alright.

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Ultima · February 18th, 2009, 03:29 AM

Hey man, no problem at all, glad to help.

About that PSU....I looked on the site and seems it is the only choice you have there.
Before you order it, contact them and ask what the ratings for the +12V lines are, what Amperage they can deliver. That is the most important part.

Are you getting the card in the same place??

I looked at the site again, and if you are planning on getting the videocard there as well, I recommend the following:

If that powersupply turns out to be ok, then get that one, but when you get the answer from the shop about the +12V rating, 1st post it here before making a decision.
Then, if that if sufficient, get this card:

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You'll have to wait with ordering it till you get that little bit of extra money, but it'll be worth it, the 4670 is better then the 9500GT, it's closer to the 9600GT.

GeForce 9500 GT review

that is a review where you can see the 9500GT and 9600GT in action, as you can see the 9500GT is a lot slower then the 9600GT, so.....I would get the 4670, but ofcourse that is your choice in the end.

mws23 · February 18th, 2009, 09:49 AM

hello ultima. yes i will be getting the card in the same place. uhm it is a store that is just there site. although i have found a better and cheaper psu on ebay. please give it a look.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/GREEN-500W-ATX-POWER-SUPPLY-500-WATT-DUAL-FAN-20-24_W0QQitemZ280310758962QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCA_UPS ?hash=item280310758962&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkpa rms=72%3A1215|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

it is a very good deal considering it is new. also i am a bit iffy on ati. all my friends say that the 9500 gt is better and i was also planning on getting it as well for a long time. but now you show me the 4670 and it looks pretty good. anyways i dont play Crysis or anything im just Counter Strike:Source and WoW and i play at 1024*768 but i do want the highest fps at max settings and smooth gameplay so i will consider the 4670. also i have about 200 dollars but the 70 from that is iffy because before i figured out i had pci-e i purchased a pci 6200 which is horrible. i bought it about 3 weeks ago and at the store i got it from (cbit) they give you instore credit so i guess i can return this. but then i am not sure because i purchased it a while back. thanks.

Ultima · February 20th, 2009, 03:53 AM

best thing is to contact the store about getting a refund.

They will probably say yes if you tell them you want to opt for a better card, which you also want to buy there, they shouldn't be any problem, more money to them so to speak

About that powersupply, it may be cheap, but it has a max current of 10A on the +12V line, of which it only has 1, so if you get that one, you will not be able to run the card on it.
Best is get info from the shop, explain you bought a card there but wanted another, which they sell, and want to trade it in, and the PSU I recommended, and you should be fine.

About your friends....they wouldn't happen to all use nVidia cards would they? Seriously, if you can show me an unbiased review that showes the 9500GT being better then the 4670.....I'd like to see it

But you can always get the 4830 instead of the 4670, it has a lot more performance and in that shop it costs 150 bucks....your choice ofcourse.

mws23 · February 20th, 2009, 09:40 AM

thanks for alll your help dude. i finally made my decision. i am going to return my current card and get the psu at cbit. also i will bring my computer there as they install parts for free. as for the 4670. well i am lucky as to my friend's cousin is a computer tech and he is selling his 4670 for one hundred. i am going to purchase that once i get my PSU. but here is the thing. i can get a brand new one at cbit for less becuz my current card is 64.95. the psu is 49.95. so that means there is an extra 10 - 14 dollars. but then again there is tax so it will come around 100 +. so, i will just get the one from my friend's cousin. as for the 12v rails and ampreage i have no clue what that is. LOL.