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    Decent Low Profile PCI-E card on weak psu??

    Hello all,


    I've got some decent ideas as to what my fit the bill but I figured some of you may have better experience in this then me.

    I just purchased a small form factor pc by Acer (yea yea I know ) for a great price as a xmas gift for my bro.

    Specs are

    Athlon II X4 Propus @ 3.1ghz
    4gb dual channel DDR3
    1tb HDD (

    The worst part is the craptastic 6150se (slightly better than a vanilla 6150) onboard, as well as the weak 220w psu.

    The good news is that it does have an available pci-e 16x slot.

    My brother is not a hardcore gamer, however he does do some casual older (Around the HL2 / source era ) gaming, and does enjoy HD movies.

    This is where the 6150se falls flat on it's face.

    My main concern, here is what can fit the bill?

    I've mainly come to the conclusion that the Nvidia GT430 Fermi and the AMD 6670 or 6570 are my only options.

    However, my first biggest concern is the psu. I'm not sure on the amps of it yet as it's not in my possession to take a look at yet.

    Googling shows that it looks like the 6670 / 6570 are pretty decent and *should* be ok on it as the rest of the rig is not power hungry at all.

    However, how is the Fermi?

    Also, though these are low profile, they look rather long, anyone know if they are decent in a SFF setup?

    I'm essentially looking for a 128bit card w/ atleast 512mb of GDDR3 or preferably GDDR5 (6670 is the only one I've seen so far in low profile trim)

    And this is the 6670 I'm referencing;

    Newegg.com - HIS H667FN1G Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card


    Anyways, ANY AND ALL HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED AS ALWAYS!
    Last edited by SoloCamo; November 25th, 2011 at 04:20 PM.
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    Not all are GDDR5, but given the size and power constraints...

    49W for GT 430: nVidia GeForce GT 430 Video Card - Reviews, Specifications, and Pictures - GPUReview.com

    Radeon 5550, 39W: ATi Radeon HD 5550 Video Card - Reviews, Specifications, and Pictures - GPUReview.com

    42W 5570: ATi Radeon HD 5570 Video Card - Reviews, Specifications, and Pictures - GPUReview.com

    6570 with GDDR3, 44W: AMD Radeon HD 6570 GDDR3 Video Card - Reviews, Specifications, and Pictures - GPUReview.com

    GDDR5 version is 60W: AMD Radeon HD 6570 GDDR5 Video Card - Reviews, Specifications, and Pictures - GPUReview.com

    6670 GDDR3, 66W: AMD Radeon HD 6670 GDDR3 Video Card - Reviews, Specifications, and Pictures - GPUReview.com

    so is the GDDR5 version: AMD Radeon HD 6670 GDDR5 Video Card - Reviews, Specifications, and Pictures - GPUReview.com

    the 6670's are pushing the edge of power limits on the PCIE slot, 75W max.

    (Low profile versions of these will be hard to find but they did make some) 5670 is about 61W, and around performance of 6570/6670: ATi Radeon HD 5670 Video Card - Reviews, Specifications, and Pictures - GPUReview.com


    Depending on the wattage rating of that PSU, and we all know it will probably be a low end quality unit, but the 5550, 5570, GT 430 would all be the best choices for it IMO.

    One thing that you have to make sure is that the case can hold a dual slot card, it may only be a single slot low profile area and that 6670 you linked may not even fit.

    there are also a Radeon 6750 low profile card, but its also a dual slot and needs a PSU connector to run.

    Newegg.com - PowerColor AX6750 1GBD5-LHG Radeon HD 6750 (Dirt3 Edition) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

    Open Box, $105: Newegg.com - Open Box: PowerColor AX6750 1GBD5-LHG Radeon HD 6750 (Dirt3 Edition) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card




    There's also the Geforce GT 440, 65W, nVidia GeForce GT 440 GDDR3 Video Card - Reviews, Specifications, and Pictures - GPUReview.com

    If the case can hold a dual slot card: Newegg.com - MSI N440GT-MD1GD3/LP GeForce GT 440 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card

    These are just faster spec'd 430's. Only other difference is the 440 has more Texture units on the GPU than the 430: Video Card Comparison - GPUReview.com

    but real world performance between the 430 and 440 is next to almost nothing, aside from maybe a few fps difference from what I've seen/read.
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    Thanks for the speedy reply and all that info.

    Looking at the case (from pics online) it sadly does appear to be a single slot limited area.

    This rig isn't going to nor meant to be a top of the line by any means, so I figure dropping in anything from the 5 series or gtx 4 series should be plenty. Though looking at HD playback performance compared to the gtx 4 series and the ati 5 series (and the 20w less watts in comparison to the 6670), the 6570 cards are looking pretty good, just got to find a single slot variant so the hunt is on for now.

    Thanks for all the help as usual!
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    Check Sapphire

    Sapphire makes a 6670 that will fit. so far it's the Best one that I found in a lowprofile that will fit in a single slot.
    It is a tight fit!!
    the measurement I got from sapphire is
    190mm x 62mm x 23mm
    the 23mm is about .9 inches

    I'm ordering one tomorrow!
    I will post how it goes!
    thanks.

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    This the one I ordered.

    Sapphire Technology Web Site

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    I installed the card friday 1/6/12. I've played Skyrim and the Witcher. Runs Great!! super smooth. This is and excellent video card. I installed it in a Emachine EL 1852g-52w. I use an old Sparkle slimline PSU with 270 watt max out put (the stock PSU was 220 Watt max) much lower than whats "required". It's great set up I was worried about cooling with extreme space restrictions but no problems so far!! I had a 2 hour stretch of play with out a break yesterday and no cooling isues(Skyrim).
    My windows experiance score was 3.9 for graphics and 4.0 for game graphics before the install and now both are 7.1.

    This card is Low Profile, single slot compatible, and low power.
    It is the best card I could find that fits all three of these criteria that I needed.
    I hope this helps some one!

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    WEI doesn't mean a dang thing other than how well the parts are for Windows itself, has NO bearing on how well it is for other software or games.
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