Is a 560ti superclocked a good idea for my PC?

[Thickburger]

I ask out of curiosity as I do not know what all comes into play with bottle-necking, voltages, etc... My dingy old setup;

Motherboard: Asus M4A785-M (micro ATX)

CPU: AMD Athalon II x4 635 @ 2.9 ghz (core voltage 1.376)

RAM total: 5119 MBytes
slot 1&2: DDR2 2048MBytes PC2-6400 (400 MHz) Kingston
slot 3&4: DDR2 512 MBytes PC2-5300 (333 MHz) Nanya Tech

PSU: COOLMAX
Model: v-600
Load: max 600W
+5V: 24A
+3.3V: 24A
+12V1: 18A
+12V2: 18A
+12V3: 15A
-12V: 0.5A
+5vsb: 2.5A
+3.3V & +5V max: 160W
+12V1 & +12V2 & +12V3 max: 450W

Current GPU is an overclocked radeon 5750 and it is beginning to putter out. Started artifacting and wanting to get it replaced before it completely goes. I have a new mobo and ram for a new build I am working on but I wont be able to afford to complete it for several months yet. I want to get two of this GPU (560 ti superclocked)for the new build, and since my current system's card is dying, I am curious if I can use one of them in the current sytem without hurting its performance too bad, or if I would be better off stalling the new build and just getting a temp card for this PC until the other is finished so I can keep gaming.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

[ShyguyXPC]

well for starters you've got a crap brand power supply in the mix, so until thats replaced, I wouldn't recommend moving up to an even more powerful card, let alone 2 of them.

Your running Mixed RAM, of which all of it will default to the slower stuffs speed, unless you clocked it to 800MHz in the Bios, its running at 667MHz.



You've got a new Board and RAM, is it another AMD based rig, if so is it an Socket AM3+ board?

Or is this an Intel Based Board?

either way, the PSU will need to be replaced Period.

[Thickburger]

I am aware of all of those things, and no the new board and ram are incompatable with anything I have now, save the hard drive and dvdrw drive. It is DDR3 ram and the board is a Z68 for a work in progress 2600k build.

What I am asking is if it will be worth it to put one of these (one single 560 ti) into my current machine, or should I buy another 5750 to replace the dying one until the new rig is complete (which I stated won't be for several months, maybe longer if I can't get by with using the 560 ti until then).

I do not know what all comes into play with "bottlenecking the GPU". So basically, if I stuck this GPU in, would it run more slowly than my 5750?

The new parts and using two of these in SLI and all of that will be with a completely new machine with a new PSU, board, cpu, everything. No existing part will be part of the new machine, so don't worry about any of that, haha. All I want to know is; Can I use one of the new cards with my existing setup at the same performance as the 5750, or should just buy another 5750 to replace the dying one?

[ShyguyXPC]

You would be fine to run the 560 Ti with the current hardware, shouldn't be any bottlenecking, if there were its be very little. Your CPU is still a pretty decent Quad core to run with it.

as to the Bottlenecking of the GPU, usuaully happens when the CPU is too slow (Cores, Clock speed, or overall data bandwidth processing) to run with a given GPU or GPU's, causing the cards to slow its optimal performance.

its kind of like stuffing a high performance V12 Engine into a car with an economy car's 4 Speed Automatic, it may work, but the V12 will never achieve its optimal performance.

But as I said above I would not run anything new on that PC until the PSU is replaced, as those Coolmax units are not a Quality brand.

Radeon 5750 --> 86W Consumption, GTX 560 Ti --> 170W Consumption. Nearly double your current cards Power Consumption.

If money isn't an issue, you could opt for a lesser GPU, a newer 6670 for less than $100, and toss that into the current build with the current PSU, and cross you fingers the PSU isn't the culprit for the GPU dying, as sort of a stop gap until you get a new PSU.

Or if you have some cash right now to replace the GPU, possibly use some on a GPU and PSU combo to hold you over.

Newegg.com - Antec NEO ECO 400C 400W Continuous Power ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

or

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Elite 460 RS-460-PSAR-J3 460W ATX12V V2.31 Power Supply


If you already have one of the GTX 560 Ti's (hard to tell from what you posted if you have one already, or willing to buy one), then I'd see about that Antec 400W and put it in current system with a 560 Ti until you can get a better PSU and the rest of the hardware.

I've used that same 400W Antec on a Celeron Dual Core E3200 setup with 2GB DDR2 800MHz RAM, and a 192W GTX 260 1792MB Video card before. With power to spare. Have also used a 1GB Radeon 4870 (150W) in that same system as well.

The Coolermaster PSU is an affordable option, though its listed as a 460W its not a true 460W PSU, but its still a capable quality brand unit, with enough power for your current system with a 5750 grade or lower GPU.

another option, if you don't have the GTX 560 Ti yet, is putting in the CM PSU, along with one of these 6670's.


Newegg.com - Computer Hardware, Video Cards & Video Devices, Desktop Graphics / Video Cards, Radeon HD 6000 series, Radeon HD 6670


For about what it would cost for a single new 5750 or 6750 (Same card), from most benchmarks I have seen you wouldn't lose much performance, the 6670 can almost fill in for the 5750, and in some cases almost touch the 5770/6770 for performance.



though if you have the 560 Ti already, I'd just get the Antec PSU and swap out the Coolmax, put the 560 Ti in and be good to go until all the new Hardware is in.