Thread: 7800 GT (Hook Up Help)
August 22nd, 2012, 01:05 AM #1
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7800 GT (Hook Up Help)
Okay, So im upgrading from my old 7300 212mb GPU to the 7800Gt and not sure whats wrong at the moment. My monitor is VGA so I'm using a DVI adapter for it which is currently on the left slot of my 7800GT.
My monitor works and the fan for the card is working. I also downloaded the drivers needed for the card and installed them in safe mode etc. I also disabled my 6150SE Integrated Graphics in device manager and did the reboot. It seems as if my PC is still not recognizing the card. I took it to a computer shop a month back and they said the card is fine and is working properly. I couldn't get it working so i let it sit and continue with my sheet 7300. I need this extra juice from this 7800. Some of my games are choppy. While leaving from the shop who tested my card I left there with the 4pin to molex adapter for it because I didn't have one and I got my card off ebay.
I came home and did all the above listed and hooked my P5 and P6 Molex's to the 4pin to x2 3molex with it.
Here is my Mother Board I'm using
MB.NB307.001 Emachines Motherboard Et1331G-05W System Board Ema Sb Kit Nvidia Mc | eBay
My Power Supply Unit (PSU)
System Specs Below if they can help you help me solve my problem here.
Rest of my system specs are 4gb DDR2 R2x8 on windows 7 Home Premium (CPU) AMD Athlon II x2
I got a score of seven on my ram and was also recommended to upgrade my RAM from a friend as I hear win 7 likes about 7Gigs of ram.
I should be good because i keep everything turned off while gaming. Nothing running but firefox im at 1.21gigs and still usually shut off some other things to bring it to 1gig even or 900mb give or take a lil.
Any help would be appreciated. I can take pics if need be but, for some odd Reason I think I'm lacking power when in reality i think its a setting im missing. Sorry, I'm not that computer literate but, I try! :P
The only thing in device manager that is picking up is the : "Standard VGA Graphics Adapter"
August 22nd, 2012, 01:38 AM #2
PSU is too low for your card and system, its also a lower end.
Your PSU's +12V Rail is WAY too low for your system with that GPU.
Your going to need to put a decent 300-400W unit in that rig. Though its already a 300W unit, its +12V Rail output is way too low.
Pop this in there, and you'll have plenty of power to go around:
Newegg.com - Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply
And a QUALITY brand PSU as well.
as to your friends advice, Win7 likes 7GB of RAM?
He must be smoking something, because it runs fine on 2-4GB. It depends on what you have running along with Win7 and Games. You can put more in, but question is, do you NEED more?
And forget about Windows Experience Index Scores, they mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, other than how well the hardware runs Windows 7 itself. It has NO bearing, WHAT SO EVER on anything else that is run on the machine.
I run 6GB in my system, and I run a Game, FRAPS, Teamspeak 3, Steam, Antivirus, and occasionally my Web Browser, and some other stuff, and I'm still barely using half to 2/3's of my RAM.
I plan on maybe popping in another 6-12GB in the next 4 months, but mainly because I do stuff other than Gaming on my PC, like Video Editing, and 3D Rendering.
But getting that PSU replaced with something better suited for your PC, is a start, it won't guarantee that it will fix the problems, but it will at least rule out a low end crappy Power supply as the culprit.
I hope in that EBAY link you didn't pay that $328 for your motherboard.
Just curious what you paid for the 7800GT? ( I Remember Paying $200-300 for mine when they first came out, as I had 2 of them)i7 940//Corsair H60//EVGA X58 SLI LE//6GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz//2x EVGA GTX 560 Ti FPB SLI//NZXT Hale82 850W//CM 690 II Advanced//Win7 64//WD 74GB V-raptor, 750GB Black, 1.5TB Green
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August 22nd, 2012, 01:56 AM #3
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Also, I bought this card on ebay about two months ago for 40$? Great condition. In fact, I might be selling it to buy a new PSU. You interested? LOL!
Not sure if that is allowed here, but keep an eye on ebay soon for, real. If you want it..... I was just offered a 560ti or a 6 series GPU for FREE! Maybe a mailing fee, but I'ma just sell this card now and buy a PSU powerful enough for the 560TI. Could you find me one for that? Also, my buddy said 6Gigs of Ram and I guess to play it safe and to multi task a bit. I only play CSS and I cannot run GTA IV which sucks. CSS is choppy a bit though on my 7300 and I can play BF2 and BF2: PR (Project Reality). Would be nice to play some more racing games though with my Driving Force GT wheel as this 7300 has me extremely limited.
OHhhh, This PSU came out of another computer and its not the original. So what "IF" I did this.
I can replace the original PSU in my rig.
What will I need to do and run only my graphics board off another PSU? I have been told it can be done!
Do I have to plug that PSU into the mother board or hard drive or any of that? Can I just like, plug it in the wall, hook the molex cables to the GPU while its in my main pc here and it work? The reason I ask is because I think my other PC aka spare parts is trashed and I don't want to have that fan going etc etc.
If I don't have to have that spare PSU plugged into a crappy computer to run the GPU in my main rig can I just set the PSU on a book or piece of rubber next to my tower and use it like that to Power the GPU in the rig?
And as far as "slicing" wires go, just NO! I wouldn't know what I'm cutting or what I'm doing. And not to mention, its a huge fire/shock hazard.
August 22nd, 2012, 02:54 AM #4
Pfft, your kidding? Geforce 7800's were top dogs back in 2005, I had mine in 2006.
I've since gone on from 7800GT, to 320MB 8800 GTS, to a 512MB 8800GTS, to a 512MB 9800GTX, to Dual Radeon 4870 1GB Cards, to a 1GB GTX 285, to a 1280MB GTX 470, and my current 1GB GTX 560 Ti, with my 2nd 560 Ti arriving tomorrow for SLI.
I've also had several lower end cards as well, Radeon 2600 Pro, Dual Geforce 9600 GSO's, Radeon 4830, Geforce 9800GTX+, Geforce 7800GTX, Geforce GT 220, Geforce 9800GT, Geforce 6800GT and a couple others.
All of those from 2005 to now. Before the 7800GT, I had a couple 6600GT's (one of which I still have), Radeon 9700 Pro, Geforce 5200, Geforce 4 Ti 4200 (have both a 64MB and 128MB model), Geforce 3 Ti 500, Geforce 3 Ti 200, Geforce 2 GTS, Geforce 4 MX 460, Geforce 2 MX, Riva TNT 2, Riva TNT, 3DFX Voodoo 2 Banshee, Voodoo 3 3000, Voodoo 3 3500 (have 2 of them), Voodoo 5 5500 AGP (Dual GPU Voodoo card, and last production models they made before going bankrupt, I have a Engineering/Review Sample card, not sold for Retail). And some other cards as well.
So no, don't need a 7800GT.
AS to the power supply issue, it can be done, but its not worth it, just spend the money on a Quality brand PSU, that will run the PC.
the PSU is the heart of the PC and the one component you should NEVER Skimp on.
That Antec I listed above will run your rig with a 560 Ti in it no problem.
I tested my Current Core i7 940, 6GB DDR3, 2 Hard drives, a DVD Drive, 560 Ti, Corsair H60 Liquid Cooling kit, and case fans, all on a 520W Antec Neo Eco PSU, with power to spare.
Your lower end AMD system will run fine off that 450W Antec.
As to GTA4, the game is crap for the PC, you could have a $3000 system and it will still play like crap, with bugs, glitches, stuttering, etc, the game was poorly converted from Console.
If you want to play GTA4 with out dealing with that crap, then just play the console versions. If you want to play it with some Mods and stuff, then the PC is better, but the game still runs like crap, and is also really CPU Dependent, meaning it needs a really high end CPU to run decently. Your AMD will be limiting it.
I don't know what AMD Athlon II X2 you have, you never listed the model number, or clock speed, but if its 2.5GHz or better it should run ok, just not top notch.
CSS runs choppy, on the 7300 because the 7300 is so low end.
For that $40 you spent on the 7800GT, you could of gotten a bottom of the barrel brand new GPU that would run circles around the old 7800GT.
My Current Rig:
Minus the 2nd GTX 560 Ti which should be delivered today.
Antec Neo Eco 520W in it testing the rig:
My "Old" rig similar CPU, just a tad slower, with my GTX 470 and GTX 285 in the rig:
Some of my GPU's:
When I Had my Dual 4870's (gave one to a friend) with my Radeon 4830 in my 3 Way Crossfire motherboard:
4870's in my "Old" rig run in Crossfire:
One of my 7800GT's:
My Voodoo 5 5500 AGP:
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August 22nd, 2012, 05:32 AM #5
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This is the card I got: http://computer-reviews.net/files/xf...deo%20card.jpg
Also I just switched my original PSU back in for the fact of most all the connectors are Sata so yeah. I also put another 120mm fan blowing air straight into my CPU Fan. Just did a full clean for the hell of it. Its blowing so much air I'm literally freezing balls!
Anyway, Good for you and all the Fancy stuff...... Some of us are POOOr.
Even having a sheet PC I still managed to stay away from consoles after ps2 and xbox.
If I ever touch one then its at a friends crib which I won't really have time for soon anyway.
I paid 40$ including shipping for this card though. 9$ from CA to NC
Also, Once I start working ill be Over The Road a lot so ill be buying a Top of the Line gaming laptop. Ill probably spend 1000$ on it at the very least. Far as a Desk top goes ill be rocking 3 27Inc Acers, 3 Nvidia 680s with SLI of course, 2 TB SDD's, DVD +/- R/W SuperMulti Disk Drive, probably 16 Gigs of RAM + followed by a New Desk/ Chair/ Mini Fridge/ Micro Wave/ 850W + PSU and the New Storm Trooper case if you have came across it. Far as CPU and Mother Board goes ill probably get Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E 3.3GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor.
In the mean time, I'm poor until early spring next year and have to manage with what I got and have been for the past 7 years.
So, I need to figure out how to get this 7800 running off that spare psu I got. Which is the one I listed at the start of the thread. I just put the original PSU back in which is a:
Delta Electronics Inc: delta electronics dps-300AB-39 c
So now I have the Bestec to spare. The problem with the Delta Electronic is it doesn't have the molex for the card so I figure if couldn't run the 7800 anyway.
There for I need to figure out what I can or don't have to plug into the spare PSU so I can use this card. I need iT! RAWR!
Hopefully If I get it working ill just hold onto it until dude ships me the 560TI and then I can list/sell it for 30$ and buy that PSU. I was just looking at a Cool Master 450W for like 25$ with a 10$ rebate.
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