what would work...i need some help

**munkeyboy123** · October 12th, 2003, 01:14 AM

hey guys well im getting a athlon xp 2500+ barton@1.83ghz and 512mb pc2700 ddr on a soyo kt400 mobo, now the mobo has a 8x agp pro slot now the pro slot is a universal pro slot so i guess it supports everything, but im not sure and i need to know which graphics cards would work on here. and i need a good graphics card 128to256mb i dont care i got $200 to spend maybe a lil more but not much, any suggestions would be great thanx

**iNeb** · October 12th, 2003, 01:18 AM

ATI 9700 pro maybe, just a thought

**munkeyboy123** · October 12th, 2003, 01:22 AM

i see but y did u say maybe do u not know if itll work?

**iNeb** · October 12th, 2003, 01:23 AM

Well, there are many options, if your are a gamer, video editor, if you like nvidia better, all depends.

**munkeyboy123** · October 12th, 2003, 01:27 AM

well im not gonna do any video editing work, but games and good games im prepairing for hl2 and doom3, im really only asking this question cuz i dont know whatll work in a 8x agp pro universal slot but im also looking for a good deal and good suggestions

**munkeyboy123** · October 12th, 2003, 01:28 AM

oh yeah i dont care if its nvidia or ati me like em' both

**JayMan** · October 12th, 2003, 01:30 AM

Any AGP4x or above card should work in that motherboard.

Depending on what your gonna be using it for depends on what sorta card you should buy...

At the moment, king of the hill for games would be ATI radeon 9800 pro series. If your just gonna be using it for office apps/internet ONLY, then ya could look at something cheaper like a Geforcefx5200, geforce4 mx, radeon 9000/9100/9200 etc... This will play games "ok", but not real good... If your after good gaming performance, but not overthe top pricing, maybe look at geforce4 ti4600, radeon 9500/9600/9700 (the later probably be the better choices as they are all dx9 hardware, which will help in future games)

JayMan

**munkeyboy123** · October 12th, 2003, 01:39 AM

thanx jayman, i will be using this for alot of gameing and internet , ive been lookig at the ati 9600pro or the nvidia 5200 ultra maybe the 5600 ultra. um also the nvidia ti 4200 8x version i like it cuz the price and that it has a 256-bit core most are 128-bti floting point somthing or other but it doesnt have dx9 support i dont think i mean it might have 8.1 support but then agina all im running on now is a diamond viper 32mb it blows it gets choppy on warcraft3 but thats running on dx9 cuz i dl dx9 adn its still running, my budget is 200 to 220 or so cant afford much after 200

**JayMan** · October 12th, 2003, 01:45 AM

ok, u've said ya wanna play hl2 & doom3, stay away from the 5200's! They are budget cards and will not handle these games too well...

I'm not sure where abouts you are, so dunno what prices are like there. But i'd reckomend ya look at the radeon series, 9600pro, 9500pro, 9700, 9700pro should all play hl2 & doom3 pretty well (i've put in order from worst to best, in my opinion that is).

edit: the gf5600ultra is an alright card... And should be ok for hl2 & doom3, but i think you will get better "bang for ya buck" with one of the radeon cards i mensioned above. Same deal goes with the gf5900ultra, another nice card... But performance doesn't match its price IMO...

JayMan

**munkeyboy123** · October 15th, 2003, 08:20 PM

well thats respectable idea but why is the 9600 pro before the 9500pro also what does imo or imho mena everyone says it and i dont know that computer lingo word, i was looking at the 9600pro and some others

**shawshank62** · October 15th, 2003, 08:42 PM

get a 9600pro and do some overclocking.....they are excellent

**butch81385** · October 15th, 2003, 08:49 PM

IMO = in my opinion
IMHO = in my humble (or honest) opinion

**JayMan** · October 16th, 2003, 08:19 AM

the 9600 although newer, is actually a "lesser" card... Its got a lower transitor count, meaning they are leaving something out, ... From memory its missing a vertex shader unit or 2, and a pixel shader unit or 2, but it runs at a higher clock speed to try to make up the difference...

Lemme see if i can find an article about the 2 of them...

Heres one: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1812
Very 1st page has a basic overview of some cards... Note the 9600PRO has half the pipelines of the 9500PRO. So if ya got yaself a 9500pro & o/ced to 300Mhz core & mem, u'd have yaself an easily faster card than the 9600pro...

JayMan

**tony_j15** · October 16th, 2003, 01:55 PM

If you can find a Radeon 9700, they are the best 200 bucks ever spent. The r9700 has a 256bit pipe and outdoes the r9500/9600(which runs a 128bit pipe) It'll run Doom3 and HL2 great and you wont need to upgrade again for several years.