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    Need help w/ ATI card choice!

    I'd like to replace my Ti 4200 with something much faster and compatible, so I've been checking out what ATI had in store, since the FX cards and their drivers suck. Here are my choices:

    Asus 9600 XT

    ATI OEM 9600 XT

    ATI 9800 SE

    Which one is the faster of the three? I was concerned with the ATI OEM card because I've heard their clocks are slower than the regular ones, is that true for that card? Since their all about the same price, it's more of a performance issue than cost. I'd like to spend as little as I can, so if anyone can find it cheaper somewhere else, let me know!

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    If you are up for some software hacking, the 9800SE can be modified into a 9800 Pro assuming you pick the right card.

    http://www.techimo.com/newsapp/index.pl?photo=9013

    http://www.ocfaq.com/softmod/faq.php

    If you are not up for hacking, or perhaps are unsure about the SE card being offered (LOOK CLOSE AND ASK VENDOR QUESTIONS!), then the Asus 9600 XT would be your best bet. And yes, the ATI OEM card may have a lower clock speed than its retail sibling.

    BTW, the Asus XT series cards do not support automatic overclocking with ATI's reference drivers. You will have to manually overclock the card or use the Asus Smart Doctor utility for peak performance results.

    http://www.techimo.com/newsapp/index.pl?photo=8978

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    FLAC Trooper ArcticFox's Avatar
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    Well...I was originally going to purchase a Non-Pro and flash the BIOS, but would like to consider other options first. I'm comfortable with overclocking, my Ti 4200 is at 275/525 or something like that. Does the 9600 XT overclock as well as the 9600 Pro?

    Also, out of the box, will the 9800SE outperform the 9600 XT?

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    The 9600 XT is essentially a refined 9600 Pro design, so expect slighlty improved overclocking. Other performance gains are present due to the improved Z-buffer compression routines of the XT and as compared to the original Pro.

    This article should answer the rest of your questions concerning comparative performance between each of cards you have presented....

    http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/digest3d/index.html

    Hope this helps,
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    Well the 9800np is a better buy as long as you can flash it up to 8 pipe. But i think you are going to have to research brands to make sure you can flash and which you can and can't. I dont know if they make one with 256mb. I only see the 128mb cards but i undertand the power color you can flash but research it!

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    Originally posted by RobRich
    If you are up for some software hacking, the 9800SE can be modified into a 9800 Pro assuming you pick the right card.

    http://www.techimo.com/newsapp/index.pl?photo=9013

    http://www.ocfaq.com/softmod/faq.php

    If you are not up for hacking, or perhaps are unsure about the SE card being offered (LOOK CLOSE AND ASK VENDOR QUESTIONS!), then the Asus 9600 XT would be your best bet. And yes, the ATI OEM card may have a lower clock speed than its retail sibling.

    BTW, the Asus XT series cards do not support automatic overclocking with ATI's reference drivers. You will have to manually overclock the card or use the Asus Smart Doctor utility for peak performance results.

    http://www.techimo.com/newsapp/index.pl?photo=8978

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    Agree with this.

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    Well thanks for the help. I have run into another issue:

    http://www.gameve.com/gve/store/prod...=VC-POWERC-042

    This thing is cheap! I'd prefer a Made-By-ATI card, but this should suffice. The page has 2 pics, one with BGA RAM and another with moldy TSOP stuff. Which one does this card have? I'd like BGA so I could OC it more.

    What's the difference between Powercolor's EZ and regular Pro cards?

    And how much of a performance difference is their between this Pro card and the 9600 XT?

    Oh, and I really don't care if a card has 128mb or 256mb or RAM. 128 is fine, considering I used a PC with 4MB and a Rage Pro.
    Last edited by ArcticFox; November 19th, 2003 at 07:25 PM.

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