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    60Hertz vs 75 Hertz.

    In my Sony Trinitron 21" lately i am obligated to use lower
    refresh rates because of some Electrical problems.
    the image is not stable, it shakes baddly when i set it to 75Hertz.
    Does this affect me when playing games?
    and How?
    What are refresh rates for anyways?

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    A lower refresh rate will probably hurt your eyes. 72.5Hz is like the minimum that is normal.

    If you're getting "shakes" try upgrading the driver for the monitor. Using the "Default Monitor" driver is not always the best.
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    60 = 60 fps, 75 = 75 fps and so on...i use 85hz @ 1152x864 and 105hz @ 1024x768

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    it depends how sensitive your eyes are to flicker. I still see flicker at 85Hz, but not at 100.

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    I simply cant stand having 60hz in my monitor. My eyes are sensitive so they start to hurt after a while and I get headache. I use 75hz now and thats ok for me.

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    Mine barly hurt at 60Mhz. I have mine set to 75mhz.
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    ThePianoMan, your screens refresh rate has no affect on how many fps you get in your games. The refresh rate, if i understand it correctly, is how often your screen gets "redrawn". So if you have a flicker, that can cause eye strain. Also, people are different. Some people have "fast eyes" in where they need to have a high refresh, 85hz and above (like me), in order to not see the flicker. Some people can get along just fine at 60hz.

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    are certain refresh rates better for certain resolutions? i use 1280x1024 on my 17" and right now im at 60hz but i can see it flicker a little. what rr would be best for me? i heard the higher your refresh rate the more wear and tear your monitor goes through so i want mine to last as long as possible

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    edit, sry.

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    Originally posted by ThePianoMan
    60 = 60 fps, 75 = 75 fps and so on...i use 85hz @ 1152x864 and 105hz @ 1024x768
    what vid card goes up to 105hz my 9700pro only goes upto 85hz on 1024x768 but my monitor supports upto 115?

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    With Windows, 3D games default to 60hz anyways unless the application has an override or you hack it with a third party program.

    If you have VSync on, and you should, you will be capped at a max of 60fps, which is buttery smooth. nVidia's refresh rate settings don't seem to have any effect on games, but I don't know about ATI's.

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    Originally posted by cysus


    what vid card goes up to 105hz my 9700pro only goes upto 85hz on 1024x768 but my monitor supports upto 115?
    im on a gf4 ti4200 on an old 1996 17" monitor

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    Your 9700 pro goes ALOT higher refresh then that. Id say its a problem between windows and your monitor. I garuntee you ATI's ramdac supports much higher res and refresh then yer avg. mon gives.
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    screen resloution and the refresh rate go hand in hand together.

    60hz for 800x600 = ok for some people but 70hz is better for your eyes.

    1024x768 @ 75hz is good both for your eyes and your monitor (i leave my pc on 24/7 ....)
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    I had an old dell that max was 60 mghz, when i got my sony triniton E400 19" it reccommends 85mghz
    I run 1280 X 1024 at 85 mghz, no filcker. Actually have never seen a flicker..? even the old dell at 60 mghz never had a flicker?

    only prob i had was the dell was 1994 and when i got this new monitor my eyes had to adjust to the clear picture which took about a week...


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    When a monitor manual/box says "recomended refresh at x resolution" it simply means its the highest it will go WITHOUT blurring picture some. Most only go one step higher then recomended and like mine you can really see blur after that but its a o.k. refresh rate as in it wont damage the mon. I wouldnt "recomend it" though. The video card can do a heck of alot more though.

    http://www.ati.com/products/radeon97...pro/specs.html

    As it says at ati for 9700pro WITH 128mb mem (higher max res 32bit colors needs 256mb)

    640x480 120hz
    800x600 120hz
    1024x768 120hz
    1152x864 120hz
    1280x1024 120hz
    1600x1200 85hz
    1920x1080 16:9 ratio 75hz
    1920x1200 75hz
    1920x1440 75hz
    2048x1536 60hz (max colors 16bit at this res without 256mb mem)

    "I run 1280 X 1024 at 85 mghz, no filcker." Yep and the 9700pro even goes higher at that res its max refresh is 120hz! By the way just so ya know. Mon refresh rate is in hz like your ac outlet not megahertz. Mega as in 1 million hz. The horizontal refresh is in Khz as in 1 tthousand. The verticle is just Hz. Now most monitors that we can afford WONT offer 1280x1024 120hz. not any I can anyways. LOL. At above 20"s some offer it but very $. A 29" mon $$$$. Your basic 19" mon wont ever see the high refresh rate/res combo's a newer ati or nvidia offer.
    Last edited by Xtreeme; February 17th, 2004 at 03:11 PM.
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    Heres the 9800 chart with its 400mhz ramdac chip it supports higher refresh even!

    Not forced 60hz at any res!
    640x480 200hz
    800x600 200hz
    1024x768 200hz
    1152x864 200hz
    1280x1024 160hz
    1600x1200 120hz
    1920x1080 120hz
    1920x1200 100hz
    1920x1440 90hz
    2048x1536 85hz

    I knew I saw higher res/refresh specs when I bought my 9800. So the 9800 not only added more dx9 features and better AA/AF at high res. It added even better ramdac (hence most say 9800 looks better) with higher refresh per res rates. Just thought I'd share the find.

    http://www.ati.com/products/radeon98...pro/specs.html
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    i am sad. the highest my monitor will display at 1280x1024 is 60hz. if i set it any higher my monitor quits displaying anything and says "frequency too high".

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    cracked yours is prob. a 15 or 17" mon isnt it. My 19" CTX (generic) max is 640x480 at 120hz up to 1024x768 at 100hz. THen 1280x1024 is 85hz. And 1600x1200 at 60hz. LOL I wish I could display the 1600 setting at 120hz like card can! Thats twice what my mon supports. 3 years ago I payed $250 for this 19" so I'd say regardless I got my $ worth. Now they are sooo much cheaper though as they get better at making crt's with less waiste. (3 out of 10 from factory make it to store shelf)
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