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    .... and now its the girl scouts...

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,113210,00.html

    here we go again

    Some families are boycotting Thin Mints and Do-Si-Dos and other Girl Scout (search) cookies. Troop 7527 is down to just two members after the other girls were withdrawn by their parents. And Brownie Troop 7087 is no more.

    The furor was started a few weeks ago by the leader of the anti-abortion group Pro-Life Waco (search), who sent out e-mails and ran ads on a Christian radio station urging people to boycott Girl Scout cookies because of the "cozy relationship" between the Girl Scouts and Planned Parenthood.

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    okay. looks like it's the girl scouts turn to advocate their stance on homosexuality. why couldn't they just jump on the bandwagon when the boy scouts were going through pretty much the same thing. Granted the boy scouts haven't had any cases of a member saying he had an abortion.

    All in all, I think the south should stop trying to stop progress and accept that sex ed isn't taboo.
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    I think you will find it is the right wing republicans from N.C. Va. Pa Md. Ri Ma Ct etc that is the big anti sex ed. or planned parenthood.

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    Oh brother...

    Heaven forbid kids should learn anything outside of the playground in any subject remotely riske!

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    Regardless of the parents' opinion of this, just where do they think the girl will go now that they're withdrawn from GS? If a more wholesome & proper organization exists, I've never heard of it!

    And this:
    Some 400 to 700 fifth- through ninth-graders attend the half-day Nobody's Fool conference in Waco each July. The program never mentions abortion, according to Planned Parenthood. The youngsters receive a book with chapters on homosexuality and masturbation, as well as illustrations of couples having sex, people examining their naked bodies and a boy putting on a condom.

    Some Girl Scout mothers called it soft-core porn.

    "It embarrassed me to look at it with my husband," said parent Shannon Donaldson
    Can't help but wonder just how Shannon became a parent in the first place... gotta feel sorry for her hubby, though!!

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    Well, I've got 10 boxes at work. Guess I'll just have to buy some more!

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    This is NOT an issue of sex ed as all of you have made it, this is an issue of abortion, contraception, and other things which according to those parents are morally wrong, and since Planned Parenthood is a major supporter of abortion, and the other things mentioned, and the Girl Scouts Association of America has a nice relationship with PP, the parents rightfully decided to take action.

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    Shannon Donaldson- Oh my God What is that!?!

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    Originally posted by lost-and-found
    ...and since Planned Parenthood is a major supporter of abortion, and the other things mentioned, and the Girl Scouts Association of America has a nice relationship with PP, the parents rightfully decided to take action.
    Well, I'd take it even farther than that!

    What's happened here is that the GSA has Planned Parenthood among their supporters, and these 'parents', disagreeing with this one PARTICULAR supporter, have sent these kids home for the summer.

    Guilt by association.

    No camp-outs, no meetings, BLEH!

    With this line of logic, it's not a stretch to assume that when ChuckieChan finally makes his bid for the Senate, he'll get shot down because he was once on a 'tech forum' with a certain Knothead....

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    LF, the point I intended to make is this - what is the alternative for the girls?

    If the parents disprove of the GSA's affiliation with Planned Parenthood, then they should take action in the form of protest letters, petitions, etc - removing their daughters from the GSA does NOT punish the organization, it only punishes the girls!

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    Originally posted by Ed_S
    .... removing their daughters from the GSA does NOT punish the organization, it only punishes the girls!
    Exactly.

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    I disagree, you shouldn't leave your kid in any organization that doesn't support your values and beliefs. Parents have a right to protect their children however they see fit.

    I have to say that if I had a 10 year old daughter, I wouldn't want her getting sex ed and I really wouldn't want her learning about sex from an organization that condones abortion. I don't think I would want my 10 year old to be thinking about sex at all!
    If she had questions I would want me or her mother to answer them, not someone from PP.

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    Hopefully when her daughter is 13 she doesn't suddenly gain 30 pounds and 4 dress sizes in 9 months.

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    Hopefully if that happens at 13 she sees the value of adoption and not be jack booted by PP into getting an abortion

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    Originally posted by j-mac/820
    Hopefully if that happens at 13 she sees the value of adoption and not be jack booted by PP into getting an abortion

    j-mac
    And perhaps it WOULDN'T happen at ALL if the kid was given some reliable information about her own body!

    Seriously! I once had to attend a taping of a Dr. Ruth (remember Dr. Ruth? ) show, where she was addressing a Jr. High School audience, and these kids were asking the most ASTOUNDING questions! I went around, looking for "wise guys" and found the majority of the kids were dead serious!!

    They were trying to NOT get pregnant doing just about everything one can do to GET THAT WAY!!

    They DIDN'T KNOW!!

    These kids NEED INFORMATION!! Just because you may know about the "birds and the bees", don't assume the other kid does. He or she may have reactionary parents, like the ones in this story!

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    Again I say that the primary responsibility of educating these young girls is that of their parents and not of an organization that advocates locking women in rooms and wearing them down for hours about getting an abortion and never once telling them about other options.

    I heard of a case like that and the woman had just gone in there to get literature on pregnency you know the do's and don'ts and was held against her will until she escaped for 6 hours. That is simply wrong. Seems as though these thugs took a page from some cult or something.

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    Planned Parenthood does not "advocate locking women in rooms and wearing them down for hours about getting an abortion and never once telling them about other options." Locking people in rooms is illegal. Had it actually occurred against this person's will (in the case you "heard"), I'm sure someone would be in prison. If you are really interested in Planned Parenthood's mission, I suggest you visit their website.

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    Again I say that the primary responsibility of educating these young girls is that of their parents
    i COMPLETELY agree...the problem is that it NEVER happens! i pose a question to all of you that are younger....who here got the birds and the bees talk from your parents? who got them from school. my parents never told me, i had to learn it from school programs. Almost everyone i know is the exact same way too

    btw, i live in texas in a town that, while much larger than crosbyton, is still very similar in terms of morality and such.

    here's a little fact for you guys...here in my town (lubock) they preach abstinence only and do not teach the kids anything about safe sex, etc. we have the highest pregnancy rate in the state (and i believe recently the highest in the nation) and the highest STD rate in the state. read
    here and here. i put two sources because i couldn't find a non-biased article, so here is one from the two opposite extremes.

    so say to me again that abstinence only is the best alternative and that parents are doing a good job teaching their kids about sex!


    On the other hand. As per that conference that the girls attended, the parents should have been informed BEFOREHAND about the conference, who was sponsering it, and what it would cover and been given the option not to have their children attend.

    in the end tho here's my final thought: teen pregnancy and std's have really gone up lately and no-one is doing anything about it except for groups like PP and the GSA. i commend PP and GSA for trying to teach these girls so that they may be safe. If kids want to have sex they are going to do it...no abstinence only preaching is going to do anything about it. It should still be emphasized because it obviously is the best choice...but in and of itself it won't do anything for those that decide to have sex anyways.

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    Originally posted by originel
    Here's a little fact for you guys...here in my town (lubbock) they preach abstinence only and do not teach the kids anything about safe sex, etc. we have the highest pregnancy rate in the state (and i believe recently the highest in the nation) and the highest STD rate in the state.

    So say to me again that abstinence only is the best alternative and that parents are doing a good job teaching their kids about sex!
    Most eloquently put, Originel!

    (and an aside to Pexster--that goofy story about the girl being grilled for 6 hours sounded like the sheeznit to me, too... only I didn't address it because I knew I would not have been as Diplomatic as you were... )

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    If I didn't respect the rules of this board, I'd have more to say to you.

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