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April 22nd, 2004, 09:15 AM
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| | MR Meek and Mild
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[Rant] I am often amazed by the arab mind at least some arab minds. You know the ones who typically make the news.
Iraqi's assaulted british troops with stones after bombings by terrorists which took the lives of 17 school kids and many other innocents.
It is like attacking a fireman responding to your house buring after an arsonist lit your house up.
Now I can understand not liking being occupied but redirecting your anger from the person who actually is making your life worse to those who are trying to help.
[rant off]
We need an emoticon for rant something like a red faced smiley stamping his feet and smoke coming off his head. |
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April 22nd, 2004, 09:28 AM
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Epi,
Little question...WHO is responsible for security, border control...etc....after the army and police force has been disbanded and sent home by occupying forces? |
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April 22nd, 2004, 10:00 AM
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| | Fossil
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April 22nd, 2004, 10:45 AM
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I agree, Epi.
And here is a little item I came across this morning;
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Writing in the New York Times, Walter Russell Mead of the Council on Foreign Relations reports that he's been rambling around the Middle East and has discovered the real reason "why they hate us":
It is a widespread belief that the United States simply does not care about the rights or needs of the Palestinian people.
"The Palestinian issue is really what discredits the United States throughout the region," a senior Western diplomat with years of experience in the Middle East told me. Or, as one student after another put it after the university lectures I conducted across the region: "Why do Americans have to be so biased?"
In Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey and other countries, the large majority of people I spoke with are ready to tolerate the Jewish state--most even understand that the final boundaries of Israel will include some of the heavily settled areas beyond the pre-1967 borders. They also understand that few if any Palestinians will return to the homes they lost after the war that erupted when Israel declared its independence in 1948. And they are prepared to accept, though not to relish, America's close relations with Israel. Beyond that, they want increased American support for their domestic political reforms and for initiatives to enhance regional cooperation for economic growth and fighting terrorism.
But one thing sticks in their craw: Why doesn't America care more about the Palestinians' future?
Darn it, now our craw is stuck too. Why don't their fellow Arabs care more about the Palestinians' future? With the exception of Jordan, Arab countries by and large do not allow Palestinians to become citizens, settle permanently or own land. What some of them are willing to do, notably Saudi Arabia and preliberation Iraq, is send money to support suicide bombers.
Then there's this Reuters headline: "Mubarak: Arabs Hate U.S. More Than Ever." Imagine the outcry if this were ever to appear in reverse. Bush: U.S. Hates Arabs More Than Ever.
We don't hate Arabs, but it doesn't seem unduly harsh to say many of them have a lot of growing up to do.
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Why is it that if any US action/statement is not properly 'gentled' we get flamed in the world press for monthes, but anyone can flame the US at will, and it is just another fact? |
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April 22nd, 2004, 10:48 AM
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| | Ultimate Member
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The short answer is "because it's lonely at the top." But those are all excellent points. |
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April 22nd, 2004, 10:55 AM
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| | MR Meek and Mild
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I agree that border has been a problem since the beginning. It kinda pisses me off as well.
However in the end the anger really should be aimed at the actual person doing the crime AFAIAC. Kill em, turn em in, watch them. Borders will always be porous no matter how hard you try to close them. But often people can identify strangers and strange behavior. |
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April 22nd, 2004, 11:29 AM
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every day i start to believe this more and more:
if they really want us out, lets leave... lets just get up and move out. we will come back and visit in 10 years and there will be no middle east.... just one big sheet of glass (the heat from explosions can turn the sand to glass)... but of course, it would still be all our fault and our responsibility.....
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April 22nd, 2004, 12:01 PM
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| | nuisance since 1968
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April 22nd, 2004, 12:09 PM
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| | MR Meek and Mild
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Nice!!! perhaps a little bit large  Get the guy waving his arms and it might be cool. |
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April 22nd, 2004, 12:13 PM
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| | nuisance since 1968
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They are ALL large. How are you supposed to convey the intense emotion of a rant with a little dinky icon? |
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