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August 5th, 2004, 05:31 PM
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Gilliam said she believes her refusal to have an "Individual Education Program" drawn up for her daughter is part of the problem.
She said the plan would involve not only testing Chey-enne's intellectual capability, but also her mental and emotional health, something that is not required for most children.
Gilliam said her daughter is a good student and she does not want her treated differently.
| Once again you have parents with a child who has, unfortunately, a serious medical issue and the parents want her treated "like everyone else." Well the child is NOT like everyone else. There are procedures that are in place and the parents are refusing to follow them. They want the school to go out of its way to accomodate their child, but they don't want to follow the established procedures for allowing that accomodation. Quote: |
Cheyenne takes medicine that helps prevent seizures, but she still has three to five "full-blown" episodes a week, Gilliam said.
| So three to five times each week, this classroom is going to be disrupted. What if one of these seizures is particularly severe? My little sister had a really bad one in '86 and spent the final 12 years of her life in a "persistent vegetative state", which is a phrase I have learned to hate. What if the same thing happens to this little girl and no one can get near her because the dog is laying on top of her? You think the parents won't turn around and sue the school because they all stood by while their daughter suffered a particularly brutal seizure?
This superintendent is doing exactly what he gets paid to do, protect the interest of the school district.
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August 5th, 2004, 05:52 PM
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Its not the dog I am worried about but the child. I would not want my 7 year old to have to watch one of their classmates have three to five "full-blown" seizures a week. That would be tramautizing to anyone let alone a 7 year old. |
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August 6th, 2004, 04:22 AM
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The points brought up by Rob are very important, BUT why werent the problems PREPARED for by the system?? It had 2 MONTHS TO PREPARE but did nothing.
And BTW not all parents are rich, even more so for parents with handicapped children. It might be that the mother doesnt want special classes simply because they CANT AFFORD them. |
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August 6th, 2004, 04:36 AM
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While I understand that the girl had this problem, and needs the dog...
As stated... she is not like everybody else. End of story.
no1... the article says that the parents refused, because they dont want their daughter treated differently. Quote: |
Gilliam said her daughter is a good student and she does not want her treated differently.
| my conclusion... she should not get the dog, should have the individual system, or pay for a private school.
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August 6th, 2004, 04:46 AM
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Not everyone is proud that they cant afford to take care of their children. The "dont want their daughter treated differently" statement may be an excuse - not the real reason. |
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August 6th, 2004, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jman01pa Its not the dog I am worried about but the child. I would not want my 7 year old to have to watch one of their classmates have three to five "full-blown" seizures a week. That would be tramautizing to anyone let alone a 7 year old. | Excellent point.
In the event that I ever have children - they'll be homeschooled.
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August 6th, 2004, 06:00 AM
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Most schools do not allow seeing eye dogs in classrooms either (just on a side note)... Instead, if a student is blind, they attend a special school or have classes in another part of the school with a special instructor that can help them learn despite their visual impairment. Why not simply train the teacher to do what the dog is doing? I mean, how hard can it be to duplicate its behavior and response to the girls' seizures...? It's a dog! |
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August 6th, 2004, 11:18 AM
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I understand some arguments and discussion about the girls seizures dirupting the classroom, also the point about other education options is a very good one. When your daughter has a very serious condition it seems like special educational settings would be necessary and the mother's insistence to not have her treated like that I could see as a problem that I think the Superindentent needs to address with her.
About the dog attacking someone though  .. I stick to my last post Rob
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August 6th, 2004, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FatalException Why not simply train the teacher to do what the dog is doing? I mean, how hard can it be to duplicate its behavior and response to the girls' seizures...? It's a dog! | Dogs have the ability to sense that a seizure is comming. It is trained to warn the child so she can lay down on a padded mat. |
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August 6th, 2004, 12:34 PM
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I'm going to reiterate my concern;
Personally, I see no problem with having the dog itself in the school setting. As long as the learning experience isn't hindered by the dog. I see a problem with exposing little kids to another student who has a seizure several times a week. Like someone else said - it would be traumatizing.
I once witnessed a fellow student have a very mild seizure, and found the situation to be really quite disturbing. And I was 16 years old and in 11th grade at the time. So, I really can't imagine what it would be like for a 7 year old.
Brandon
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