Thread: Ashcroft now zero for 5,000
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September 23rd, 2004, 12:32 PM #1
Ashcroft now zero for 5,000
as Yaser Hamdi is released after being held incommunicado for two years without being charged.
In judging a two-person singing contest, never award the prize to the second soprano having heard only the first.
-- Francis Bator
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September 24th, 2004, 10:51 AM #2
Good thing we have that Patriot Act to assist catching terrorrists.
Conservatives: "If the facts disagree with our opinion, ignore the facts -- or at least misrepresent them."
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September 24th, 2004, 12:29 PM #3
Hamdi was not a US citizen
at least as far as the actual citizen requirements read.
I think the law needs revisition since people seem to have a problem reading the jurisdiction clause in the 14th amendment.
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September 24th, 2004, 01:14 PM #4
Nice reliable source, there, Epidemic. Too bad the US Supreme Court doesn't see it that way, and hasn't for over a century. But, of course, with enough Scalias on the bench, maybe it will.
In judging a two-person singing contest, never award the prize to the second soprano having heard only the first.
-- Francis Bator
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September 24th, 2004, 01:57 PM #5
Well actually the Supreme court has not ever addressed this issue if I am not mistaken.
1898 Wong Kim Ark case involved two legal residents. The question is really more one of two illegal parents.
Do you believe that a person who gives birth to a child with the express purpose of avoiding deportation is a good idea?
Should our government give up it's right of consent in the citizenship process?
Well it seems like a bad idea to me.
If you look at the debate at the time it was pretty clear what the intent of the clause was.
This all boils down the the "Jurisdiction clause".
But do not give misinformation theo and imply that the Supreme court has ruled on children of illegal aliens.
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