An American Voter?

tony_j15 · October 21st, 2004, 04:26 PM

its a character flaw I also possess. But illogically, you forgot the prime aspect of Christianity. God meets you half way. sitting around means He wont do anything. if we do our part, then He will do his part.

But me voting has only partly to do with God. I also believe its my civic responsibility.

voogru · October 21st, 2004, 04:59 PM

If I remember correctly Pexster, its a free country and we can believe whatever we want to.

I can believe that Jonn Kerry is a joke (really, look at the letters

), and there is nothing you can do about it. And at the same time, you can believe that joke... I mean Jonn Kerry is gonna be the savier of the world, and the second that he's elected dead people will rise from the graves and cheer, and everyone will instantly be healed!

Thats what's great about america. Also, take a little look on your money, every piece of US currency has "In god we trust". This nation was founded on freedom of religion, but the founders were based off christianity, and I think its a cheap shot from you to be attacking that.

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I'm with Pexster on this one.... saying god brough him to us is like saying god brought me this computer....

what's the difference?

Auctually, if you have any faith whatsoever, your alive arent you? God gave you your life, so in the long run, god let you live long enough to earn the money you used to buy your computer.

The Real Bingo · October 21st, 2004, 05:05 PM

Funny, I'm not a church-goer, but I like Bush. I guess I should like Kerry? It's all about ideals. I don't care about religion one way or the other. So be it if she's thanking God. Who are you to say if she's wrong or not?

Hungrycookpot · October 21st, 2004, 05:09 PM

a cheap shot? what are you talking about? yeah, it was based on christianity. Back in the day when women who knew how to read were burned for being witches. Thank you, christianity, whatever would we do without you. The fact is that religion promotes action without thought. If you think that god is behind you in whatever you do just because you go to church on sunday, you arent going to think of the consequences of what you are doing, you'll just know that "god" is behind you 100%. I just dont understand how people can say that the killing of other people, or anything that profoundly affects someones life negatively is justified in any way because of some book that was written hundreds of years ago by some guy. I just wish that people would think for themselves before they do something so important as voting.

And TRB, im not saying that every Bush supporter is a religious fanatic, nor that every church goer votes for Bush, but he does use god alot in his speeches and such, and trys to make it seem to the very-religious that he is somehow closer to god than John Kerry.

The Real Bingo · October 21st, 2004, 05:19 PM

He uses "God" a lot in his speeches, as does Kerry (which is a bunch of malarkey); and the basic principles of the U.S. are rooted in religion. I'm not too sure, but when the President takes office, doesn't he make an oath to God? God this and God that. It's all faith. I don't know either way about it, but a person shouldn't be ridiculed because she believed God sent Bush.

I think it's more laughable when althletes thank God for catching a touchdown pass. I mean, assuming there is a God, why would He care if you catch a stupid football?

voogru · October 21st, 2004, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hungrycookpot

a cheap shot? what are you talking about? yeah, it was based on christianity. Back in the day when women who knew how to read were burned for being witches. Thank you, christianity, whatever would we do without you.

Thats not really "christianity", rather than was just a bunch of crazy people that had no clue about anything, no where in the bible does it say "burn women that can read cause they are evil!!!111one"

Rand Dusing · October 21st, 2004, 05:24 PM

The Real Bingo, you reminded me of a story my English teacher told me.

Notre Dame and Purdue (?) were playing a game and one team was down by a point or two and they were going to kick a field goal for the win. Both teams, which are both Catholic schools, started praying that their team would win.

voogru · October 21st, 2004, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rand Dusing

The Real Bingo, you reminded me of a story my English teacher told me.

Notre Dame and Purdue (?) were playing a game and one team was down by a point or two and they were going to kick a field goal for the win. Both teams, which are both Catholic schools, started praying that their team would win.

Those types of prayers (like praying to win the lottery) are ignored and discouraged (at least in my church).

Xtreeme · October 21st, 2004, 06:23 PM

"Those types of prayers (like praying to win the lottery) are ignored and discouraged (at least in my church)."

Think I know why too. Self centered prayers only for personal gain or satisfaction = bad.

"God gave them to us four years ago when we needed them," she said. "I have faith he will give them to us again."

I dont see a problem with that. Just expressing her freedom of religion. As for to that extent I could say

"God tried through mans work, to keep bush out of office last term. Though corruptness in man prevailed, he won. I have faith god will not allow it to happen again. I believe it may have had purpose even, to teach us the WRONG way to go about global issues." No worse, no better-just as right. As its my freedom of speech and religion. Others think diff. they can just not read it. That simple.

Hungrycookpot · October 21st, 2004, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by voogru

Thats not really "christianity", rather than was just a bunch of crazy people that had no clue about anything, no where in the bible does it say "burn women that can read cause they are evil!!!111one"

no different than a bunch of crazy people who say "bomb iraqis because their religion is evil, god supports us 100%, dont worry!!!111one" and dont say that its not about wiping out the muslim faith, ive heard in a couple other threads that "the only way to end this terrorist threat is to exterminate islam."

i realize that the terrorists are doing the exact same thing to us, my point is is that you shouldnt take religion too seriously, because any religion can be twisted to do this, if you try hard enough.