Do any of you think things can get worse for Americans?

[Chuckiechan]

By this I mean, we have had a pretty long period of prosperity and a lot of the younger folks on this board have never really experienced how bad a bad economy can get.

I think this goes a long way toward explaining differences between conservatives and liberals. Their life's experiences are different.

I want Bush to win, because I fear the economic cruelty that liberal Democrats invariably bring to young and mid career workers.

[M_Six]

I want Bush to win, because I fear the economic cruelty that liberal Democrats invariably bring to young and mid career workers.

You really are in denial, aren't you.

[pickel]

"I want Bush to win, because I fear the economic cruelty that liberal Democrats invariably bring to young and mid career workers"

What's in the pipe that your smoking ???? Young and mid career workers will probably end up in their grave or a VA hospital at the rate we're going.

[Chuckiechan]

Must you spit when you speak?

Don't you remember 18% prime rates?

Construction lending halted?

In fact what did $ 20.00 buy in 1970?

[Blazer06]

pickel... could you back up that statement? I don't know the numbers, but if you are insinuating a draft, then please tell me... how many died in vietnam before the draft. WWII? I know only about 1k have died in Iraq so far.

I cannot say I truely know what a "bad bad economy" is. I know I have a job, and have had it for over a year and half, so the economy isnt that bad. I know even with home depots being built in all directions, the company I work for (hardware store) is still turning profits... every of the 140+ stores.

I know the grocery store constantly has a help needed sign on the door. I know that the mom and pop stores even have looking for help signs. I know the local computer shop has a now hiring sign.

My only complaint is the gas prices, because I do remember when they were 99 cents, and everyone was in shock when they passed $1.


Blaze

[John Prophet]

Have heard rumours that oil will go over $100/barrel.....that might answer your question there, lol

[Pexster]

Yes, the '90s were so cruel, weren't they? The bad old days of a national debt moving towards getting retired -- when the Fed was actually worried about the effect on the global economy if we stopped issuing our Treasury IOUs!

You really do need to find better drugs, Chuckie!

[M_Six]

I remember balanced budgets and budget surpluses. I remember great raises. I remember houses that cost less than $300k. And that was only 6 or 7 years ago.

[pickel]

pickel... could you back up that statement? I don't know the numbers, but if you are insinuating a draft, then please tell me... how many died in vietnam before the draft. WWII? I know only about 1k have died in Iraq so far.

I cannot say I truely know what a "bad bad economy" is. I know I have a job, and have had it for over a year and half, so the economy isnt that bad. I know even with home depots being built in all directions, the company I work for (hardware store) is still turning profits... every of the 140+ stores.

I know the grocery store constantly has a help needed sign on the door. I know that the mom and pop stores even have looking for help signs. I know the local computer shop has a now hiring sign.

My only complaint is the gas prices, because I do remember when they were 99 cents, and everyone was in shock when they passed $1.


Blaze

Post back when you sign up for the Selective Service and get your summons to report for duty.

[Chuckiechan]

Boy, the bullies are on the playground today!

A bad economy is when you are stuck in a crappy job, and you are afraid to move for fear of having no job. You future gets defined by those 5 and 6 year stretches of gloomy prospects.

[The Real Bingo]

The stock market seems to like Mr. Bush, anyway...

And what's all this about drugs and smoking? Because he's conservative and doesn't meet your point of views, doesn't mean you should act like some stupid high schooler (pot calling the kettle black) and say he's "smoking something".

[pickel]

The stock market seems to like Mr. Bush, anyway...

And what's all this about drugs and smoking? Because he's conservative and doesn't meet your point of views, doesn't mean you should act like some stupid high schooler (pot calling the kettle black) and say he's "smoking something".

The stock market, indeed. Who do think got ALL the tax breaks ??????

I really went far on my $150.00

[The Real Bingo]

The small busniness did get the majority of the tax breaks, but don't talk like the middle class didn't get any breaks. They just didn't get as much.

[Blazer06]

I remember balanced budgets and budget surpluses. I remember great raises. I remember houses that cost less than $300k. And that was only 6 or 7 years ago.

WHERE DO YOU LIVE?

My parents just bought a house for $120k, and are hoping to sell ours for a MAX of $180k (more like $150-170k)


Blaze

[Pexster]

Point-of-view is one thing, TRB, but Fantasyland is another.

It's true, probably no one on this board lived through the Great Depression, but Bush is the first President since Hoover to lose jobs over four years. IMO, health care premiums are hurting hiring. The market sucks nowadays, too. Oil prices are scaring investors.

[pickel]

Point-of-view is one thing, TRB, but Fantasyland is another.

It's true, probably no one on this board lived through the Great Depression, but Bush is the first President since Hoover to lose jobs over four years. IMO, health care premiums are hurting hiring. The market sucks nowadays, too. Oil prices are scaring investors.

Must be a vitual water pipe in cyberland !!!!

[Chuckiechan]

If GWB was the first president to lose jobs since Hoover, they why is unemployment lower than when Clinton was president?

[Pexster]

Besides, I remember all too well how to act like a stupid high schooler!

The if and the then are like apples and oranges, Chuck. You know that, I suspect.

[The Real Bingo]

Also, think of the technology fields. Everyone and their mom went into computers and such (as proven by this website). Now there are just so many people out there that deal with technology, there's bound to be lay-offs.

Now the big thing is healthcare. I wouldn't be suprised if the same thing would repeat in that field in about ten years.

[EpyonMelee]

you dont understand when people say lose jobs.

he is the first president since hoover to have lost net jobs.

he has not made one net job to date.

like he came to office and lets say that when he came it was 0 (bear with me)

then because of his sloppy econmic policys the 0 turns into a -50

later because of last ditch "tax cuts"

that -50 turns into a -40

yes, because of that tax cut the -50 turned into a -40, which counts as making unemployment less, but that -40 is still less than a 0 which was when he came to office.

so in realtiy he hasnt made a real job, just made up for his loss'

its still less than when he came to office.

Hope this helped a little bit.