Are we getting ready to take out Iran?

[Prexaspes]

Shooting off Nukes? Do you really believe that a country with 2 or 3 nuclear weapons would bother loading them onto an ICBM which would cost possibly more than the development of the nuclear weapon itself?

We don't have to worry about nukes falling from the skies unless it's Russia or China.

Why do you think we're trying to inspect al cargo that comes into the US? Imagine a 30 or 40 kiloton nuclear device pulling into NYC's South Street Seaport. Track that back to it's home.

[willy_ph]

We NEED to stop this *nation building* nonsense and pull out ALL of our troops. Then we NEED to NUKE Iran, Syria AND Iraq. We need to put the other arab nations on notice that we will NOT tollerate any more terrorist activities, and that one word of disapproval from the UN, and they'll be booted off of our soil.

It's time that America deal with these thugs with some REAL power and with an attitude!

Yeah, cause that's gonna be an effective solution to ending terrorism. Just give them a really good reason to dump everything they can possibly muster onto your country.

It's idiots like you that ought to be the first to go.

[lone1dog]

We can not be everywhere in the World and police the whole Worlds problems. Maybe half of it, but we can an absolutley have to take out nuke an WMD threats the best way we can. We have to act even if we do it alone but we all know. Who will stand with us. Why poll something that must be done.
As far as Iran a little shock and awe bombing the crap outta there nuke facilities and military targets will stop the treat or they can feel the wrath of the U.S.Military like Saddom. Syria too.

[-FMA]

We NEED to stop this *nation building* nonsense and pull out ALL of our troops. Then we NEED to NUKE Iran, Syria AND Iraq. We need to put the other arab nations on notice that we will NOT tollerate any more terrorist activities, and that one word of disapproval from the UN, and they'll be booted off of our soil.

It's time that America deal with these thugs with some REAL power and with an attitude!

Shut up, if we just nuked them why would we be any better? Yes there are terrorist there but there are inniocent people who do not deserve to be nuked. Just because we have the power does not mean we should enforce it.
If we were to nuke them, then we could take over that area of the world and expand the US, mabye your on to something! But then other countries who were once with us will no longer be and we will be left alone. Think before you post

Anyway,
I personally think that getting rid of nukes is a good thing, they should not be made at all.

[The Real Bingo]

Just because we have the power does not mean we should enforce it.

Precisely why rogue nations shouldn't be allowed to control nuclear weapons. It's like a new child with a toy: He'll want to try it out!

[lone1dog]

I would be in favor of using tactical(small) nukes if the need should arise,we should have used them in the mountains of Afganistan.We probably wouldnt be looking for Osama anymore.

[RADAR1797]

Syria is rumored to be on notice

-RADAR

[7th Angel]

Shut up, if we just nuked them why would we be any better? Yes there are terrorist there but there are inniocent people who do not deserve to be nuked. Just because we have the power does not mean we should enforce it.
If we were to nuke them, then we could take over that area of the world and expand the US, mabye your on to something! But then other countries who were once with us will no longer be and we will be left alone. Think before you post

Anyway,
I personally think that getting rid of nukes is a good thing, they should not be made at all.

Typical liberal pacifist reply
When are you libs going to realize that OUR nukes give you the freedom to say "shut up" (Freedom of speach; the 1st Amendment, for you government school products)???

Maybe you should think before you post

[Ed_S]

We NEED to stop this *nation building* nonsense and pull out ALL of our troops. Then we NEED to NUKE Iran, Syria AND Iraq. We need to put the other arab nations on notice that we will NOT tollerate any more terrorist activities, and that one word of disapproval from the UN, and they'll be booted off of our soil.

It's time that America deal with these thugs with some REAL power and with an attitude!

Actually, that time has passed - but I like the thought!

We should have done it the week immediately following 9/11 - the whole world would have backed us up, or at least kept their mouths shut!!

Said it then, still think so now.

[Shabow]

If we don't police the world, who will?

The UN is corrupt and none of the other countries are not willing to sacrifice any of their troops.

It is a responisibility that you must fulfill if we are the leading superpower of the world to police the world.

If you wat to fight the war on terror it cannot be fought on the sidelines we must go out and use or offense AND defensive strategies. This nation cannot sit back and wait for another attack to happen to us. We cannot afford it.

Unless, however, you are a bloody liberal who believes that paying off PETA is a much better means of government spending that fighting the good fight.

[The Real Bingo]

Liberals, Conservaties; what does it matter? It's a shame the two can't even agree on how to go about defending their own country.

[Chuckiechan]

We aren't going to nuke anybody. Keeping nations from getting nukes is how we beat them militarily.

In spite of China's bluster, Taiwan is still standing! I don't think China wants to chance a blockade of exports over an invasion of China. They'd lose the USA market, and France, Germany, and Russia aren't big enough to pull up the slack.

The world is lucky the US isn't an evil power. The US wants to advance the cause of democracy and freedom. When this happens, people start buying and trading with other nations.

This is a critical time in history when the middle east can be tamed once and for all.

[ClubMed]

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[Skywalker[TSG]]

It's strange that these nations havn't been able to build a bomb. They have been working for years and years. A modern nation with nuclear production and uranium like sweden could produce a nuke in just a few weeks. So why have the iranians been working for decades ?

Is it purely due to sanctions ?

[GroundZero3]

First of all there is no proof that Iran is in the process of building nuclear weapons.

Then even if they do, you really think a small nation like Iran, which might end up with a couple low tech nukes is going to use them? And not just that, but use them against America, a nation with thousands of high tech nukes and the ability to wipe Iran off the map??

Whether Iran has nukes or not, it is not a threat. Most of the smaller nations who might want nukes want them for defensive and deterrence reasons.

If Iran actually does end up building a nuke to use it against the USA it would be a situation where they fire 1 nuke at America (provided they manage to build a delivery system), and America replies with 20 or 30. What’s the point of that? What’s the benefit to the Iranian government and people to be wiped off the map?

I have no problem with America being prepared and ready. I have no problem with a working missile shield system. But to invade other countries or to attack them simply based on an assumption or false intelligence will only create more hatred towards America and cause more armed groups to form vowing to fight you.

These premature calls for war and invasion are just silly IMO.

i think one of the major concerns is where that nuke will go. Will it be sold to some unknow person and then disappear to just show and be used on us?

[usslindstrom]

GZ3 is refering to the good movie "The Sum of All Fears."

Thinking too much about this scares everybody. The Cold War was the exact same scenario. However, we as the United States have really no right to run and jump the gun to invade another country, simply because they 'Want' a WMD.

It was good to get Saddam out of Power for the fact of Genocide, and everything of the sort... But don't think for an instant that our stuff doesn't stink. We sat and watched Hitler murder thousands upon thousands, just like the rest of the world, until we were attacked by the Empire of Japan, where we gladly offered our services.

So, should we've sit and watched Saddam continue his murdering? No. But that's where he differs from another country simply WANTING to do aquire something. If they want WMD for defense, then so be it. However, if we are worried obout our own defense, then we should assist in the checks and balances of the system, ensuring that there is no foul play.

[RayH]

Chuckie So you want to roll through to Tehran like we did to Baghdad? Never mind the fact that Iran is armed to the hilt!

[aldtech]

“We will probably do a surgical strike, combinded with a pro US coup. There are a lot of Iranians who are pro USA, many more than Iraq's. Zillions of Iranians immigrated to the USA after the overthrow of the Sha by the radical Islamists. The students were put on notice that their next "demonstration" was going to have fatal consequences.

So basically, they may be tougher militarily, but easier politically than Iraq.

I'm all for it.” – Chuckiechan

OK, I vote that we send you and/or your children on the first strike there and then you can report back on how warm the Iraqi I mean Iranian people are to your presence.

ClubMed – I for one value your comments and view your posts as a voice of reasoning from someone whose background and culture is from the mid-east as opposed to those of us who do not have a clue. However, today I disagree with almost all of your comments posted in this thread.

I believe that you are expressing some optimistic naiveness in your comments stating that if Iran where to develop and produce nuclear weapons that they would only be for self-defense. I firmly believe that once they where to develop a delivery system that they would nuke Israel. And your comments that “there is no proof that Iran is in the process of building nuclear weapons” is totally wrong, there is all kinds of proof from traces of enriched uranium to centrifuges (which they acknowledge to possessing) used to make it. From what I have read, there is only one use for such equipment and if they are not developing nuclear weapons then why have it?.

Lastly, Iran is no small country. It is the largest country in the region and is larger than France and Germany combined.

If Iran develops nuclear weapons, as they do have the right to, I believe that it will only be a matter of time before they use them either against Israel or the US in Iraq as a measure of self defense. Quite frankly, I believe that the latter would constitute a 2-for-1 deal in their eyes, getting ride of Iraq too.

My opinion here by no means implies that I am for invading Iraq or for pre-emptive military strikes, let diplomacy do its work, but once it is confirmed that they have nuclear weapons then all bets are off.



aldtech

[Chuckiechan]

So you want to roll through to Tehran like we did to Baghdad

No.

I think we can probably de stabilize the government enough for it to topple. If their nuclear progress gets too far along, then we will need to take it out and let them holler.

Iran is one of the final "bad boys" in the middle east. Don't you think it's a good investment to reform them before it is too late? And yes, "reform" means everything from getting a peaceful, pro American government in there to eliminating the nuclear factories**. Their government dosen't represent the will of the people, it's a middle ages theocracy that follows the belief that infidels must die. And unfortunately for them, I'm an infidel. They gotta go.


** We may actually have to do this with troops due to radiation hazards spreading from an explosion.

[Chuckiechan]

Aldtech says:

OK, I vote that we send you and/or your children on the first strike there and then you can report back on how warm the Iraqi I mean Iranian people are to your presence.

No, you should stay warm and safe while other's protect the country. That's why we have an all volunteer military.

Aldtech also opines:

If Iran develops nuclear weapons, as they do have the right to, I believe that it will only be a matter of time before they use them either against Israel or the US in Iraq as a measure of self defense.

Just who granted these rights? You feel they have rights because you have rights because you are an American. You grew up this way. You can't help but think like this. Buy you can't own handgrenades or nuclear weapons, because the police department says you can't, so there are limits.

Forget rights. Iran has only as much rights as they do firepower. I guess you want to wait and see what happens when they start cranking out nuclear missiles like the USA did the '70's just for giggles?

Diplomacy only works when you have the military stength (and will) to back it up. The world ain't Kansas.