Another horrible EVALUATION down.

usslindstrom · March 28th, 2005, 01:31 AM

Just ranting, so don`t let me bring ya` down.

Yet another year down, and another bad eval out of the way. Man this stuff is getting to me.

For those that don`t know, if you`re in the Military, you`re subject to a yearly evaluation by your supervisors; a lot like other jobs, but it`s how we get promoted. I just received mine for the past years work, and it was pretty much crap all around.

The boss people have their favorite little arse kissers, and that`s who they give the good points too, and since everything is based on a quota system there`s only a few golden step children that can be perfect... Aparently, I`m at the bottom of that quota. The others that are "perfect" don`t do ANYTHING, except abuse the system, take half days, read their E-mails, etc. etc. etc.

I can tell you that I am an OUTSTANDING worker. I like working. I never complain, even jump at opportunity to work harder and be tested. Heck, I even want to go to the war zone before this is all over and done with in a year so I have stuff to tell the kids and grandkids... But now all that I can tell them, is that I worked until my body ached MANY MANY MANY times only to realize that none of it really mattered.

I`ve been denied leave a few times, and lost it at the end of the year, since I`m always "too invaluable to loose" - er, wait... That`s until the Evals come around, and then I`m simply sub-par. For instance, however, I was set to leave on the first part of April, on my way to a new command in San Diego from where I`m at in Japan right now. ER. HOLD ON THERE MISTER... We need you around until almost the end of the month, since we failed to properly provide more licensed people with the training required to do pretty much anything.

Honestly, I know I`m not perfect. I`ve never became anybody`s "Yes" man, nor climbed so far up other peoples behinds that I can`t find my own feet. Maybe that`s my problem. Maybe I should just become transparent, with no spine.

Personnaly, I don`t think it`s possible. But I can honestly tell you that I HATE this military.

Sorry to bother you with my woes.

Prexaspes · March 28th, 2005, 01:44 AM

I feel for you. You going to a shore command? I'm on a FFG, so it's a pretty small workcenter. Less competition.

Eventually they might trim it down to the point where people can actually advance without having to do you know what.

pphalan · March 28th, 2005, 01:49 AM

On ours in the Army there is the question, "Is this Officer a Yes man?" Do you have senior NCO's that can write up a good report on you? You can challenge a review, and I would definitely be requesting a transfer every month. On top of that I would file a complaint on losing leave, at some point of time in a year they should be able to give it to you. Its time for you to go up the chain of command, you cannot have your leave stolen from you. You are not on combat assignment right now, they have no justification for it. Sit down and remember every senior NCO that you can remember, and write them a letter asking for a report on you. There is a way to find anyone in the service. Take these letters to the next man up the chain, with all info on your lost leave, and have a transfer request in hand.

Patrick · March 28th, 2005, 09:44 AM

Bad news, USSLindstrom, but I think most organizations have an annual evaluation. When you leave the military, you better plan on being self-employed.

John Prophet · March 28th, 2005, 02:37 PM

just keep your chin up buddy...do the best you can and let the chips fall where they may.

sharder8 · March 28th, 2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pphalan

On ours in the Army there is the question, "Is this Officer a Yes man?" Do you have senior NCO's that can write up a good report on you? You can challenge a review, and I would definitely be requesting a transfer every month. On top of that I would file a complaint on losing leave, at some point of time in a year they should be able to give it to you. Its time for you to go up the chain of command, you cannot have your leave stolen from you. You are not on combat assignment right now, they have no justification for it. Sit down and remember every senior NCO that you can remember, and write them a letter asking for a report on you. There is a way to find anyone in the service. Take these letters to the next man up the chain, with all info on your lost leave, and have a transfer request in hand.

I suspect pphalan is correct, in that the Navy has a way of challenging an eval, just like the Army does.

It may be worthwhile looking into his suggestion.

As for the lost leave . . . pay a visit to the Navy IG, there's NO excuse for that one.

Harder

pphalan · March 28th, 2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrick

Bad news, USSLindstrom, but I think most organizations have an annual evaluation. When you leave the military, you better plan on being self-employed.

Now this is a worthless comment given the circumstance, you have any idea what he could be putting up with? I do, this is not the civilian world, this is a world where you fail to do your job its a crime not reasons to fire you.

John Prophet · March 28th, 2005, 03:01 PM

Also, I sort of doubt these evals would influence his prospects at all once he is out of the military

pphalan · March 28th, 2005, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Prophet

Also, I sort of doubt these evals would influence his prospects at all once he is out of the military

Exactly, everyone I know has had a bad assignment, you are a literal prisoner in a bad situation in the military, although you have options. Bet he makes someone a great employee on the outside or in a different command.

usslindstrom · March 28th, 2005, 08:21 PM

Thanks for the votes of confidence guys. You guys are some really good people.

At this point in the game, I`m just set on leaving this command. I`m gone next month, and after all is said and done it`s for the better.

On the leave issue, it`s not the first time that I`ve had it taken from me, nor probably the last. Everywhere I seem to go, we`re always short manned and never seem to have enough people to do what we have to do. I just mentioned it in this scenario to demonstrate that they have absolutely no basis to judge me horribly. In this current command all of the "Golden Step Children" have been offered leave, regardless of circumstances. I`ve wittnessed even one of the "perfects" to take a month of leave, only to have it charged as TAD (Temporary Assigned Duty) where they didn`t get charged any leave days at all, and before the end of the year, approved to take another month of leave. All the time, while I lost 18 days for not being allowed to take it alltogether. I understand the fact of operational commitment, and don`t even try to take leave when I the command might be involved in something where they would need my help, but in all counts we were experiencing "down time."

I`m not saying that the EVAL system is a bad thing. It`s a good idea when it`s implemented properly. In a good system, I could see what my strengths were and find out what areas I need to improve on, etc. But when it`s abused, EVERYONE involved suffers. The boss people are only hurting people like me, since it`s ruining my career in the long run. It also only hurts the "Golden" people, since it`s inevitably setting them up for failure. I can guarantee, outside of this "comfort shield," that they won`t be able to hack it in the real world. Plus, if that`s the kind of people that the Navy wants to promote, then we`re all just waiting for something to explode in our face.

But no. I`m not going to raise a stink about it. I just want to leave and go to another place. Next month can`t come soon enough. My joke will come in to me in time, and I can honestly say that NOBODY is going to lift a finger to help the command once I`m gone.