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Old December 24th, 2008, 05:34 PM     #8791 (permalink)
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The Lotus Exige is the hardest launch control I've seen, and is kind of time consuming.


You have to stop the car, put the parking brake on, turn off the car, and then press the traction control button until the TC warning light comes on.

Now, while pressing the accelerator all the way to the floor, start the engine. The engine sits there and bounces off the rev limiter while you take off the parking brake. Then you just dump the clutch and hold on.

Go to around 2:10 into the video.

Nakshat.com clips** Lotus Exige S vs Caterham 7 CSR 260 Superlight fifth gear
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Old December 24th, 2008, 07:40 PM     #8792 (permalink)
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Well, the thing for me about the Nissan GT-R is that it's a Skyline. It's simply recognized as the pinnacle of Nissan's road performing cars that come with a warranty. I argue the same for the Corvette, Viper and GT40. Yeah, they are still a Chevy, a Dodge and a Ford....but they are more than that to the average consumer. They are the sacrifice of comfort and convenience ( minivan ) for performance. They are the jet fighters to our 747's. They may not be F22's, but everyone loves the Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds.
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Old December 25th, 2008, 06:38 AM     #8793 (permalink)
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A Z06, Viper, and Ford GT despite being Chevy, Dodge and Ford still earns the respect of Ferrari owners... Maybe not so much at the country club, but should a Ferrari line up against any one of these cars at a random light, said Ferrari owner would not be so cocky.

Solo, it's already been mentioned, but I thought I'd remind you that Nissan isn't the only one that voids warranties for what they consider "abuse" so even in terms of that, it's right there with the competition. Like I said, you just don't like the car.

I do agree with RR, that a 20K tranny shouldn't have a problem with a 450 torque rating. Then again, the HP is severly underrated, the torque may be as well. and the AWD puts a LOT more stress on the tranny, wheel spin is minimal to non existant so all that energy is being put on the tranny instead of being transformed into smoking tires.
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Old December 26th, 2008, 03:07 PM     #8794 (permalink)
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I'm trying to shake off this bronchitis(thank you Dallas TX) and accompany my racer friends to
Spring Mountain Motorsports tomorrow. Was looking at shotgun seat time in the Radical-series. Watch the videos.
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Old December 26th, 2008, 03:46 PM     #8795 (permalink)
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The warranty is void for the Cobalt SS, and even if they show that you did a burn out and had wheel hop. Apparantly the Cobalt takes a lot of damage from wheel hopping.

Chevy can also void the warranty for the HRR SS if they can prove that fowl play was involved (As in multiple luanch controls in a row, ect...)

Since when do ducks drive cars?

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*Ultimately it comes down to the issue that a $20k transmission *should* be able to reliably hold well more than ~450 lb·ft on a straight launch, even if violently coming off the line. IMO, of course.

You would think, though the AWD does limit wheel spin and adds more stress to the tranny, that a tranny that expensive would be able to handle the forces that are given it.
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Old December 26th, 2008, 04:04 PM     #8796 (permalink)
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For a comparison, aftermarket DSM owners oftentimes dump hundreds of horsepower at high RPMs into relatively stock Mitsubishi transmissions and AWD transfer cases. The primary upgrade is usually a better clutch.

However, even if going aftermarket, a superb DSM trans build is only about $4000. Some of the more extreme of DSM enthusiasts running such aftermarket builds are routinely launching at 800 to 1000+ HP, along with turning quarter-mile times in the single digits - right along with AWD, slicks, and limited wheel spin.
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Are the calipers gold-plated, too?????
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Old December 26th, 2008, 04:38 PM     #8798 (permalink)
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Since when do ducks drive cars?

sorry, couldn't resist!

What are you talking about, I see nothing wrong
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For a comparison, aftermarket DSM owners oftentimes dump hundreds of horsepower at high RPMs into relatively stock Mitsubishi transmissions and AWD transfer cases. The primary upgrade is usually a better clutch.

However, even if going aftermarket, a superb DSM trans build is only about $4000. Some of the more extreme of DSM enthusiasts running such aftermarket builds are routinely launching at 800 to 1000+ HP, along with turning quarter-mile times in the single digits - right along with AWD, slicks, and limited wheel spin.

That's an easy argument to be made, but the alternative argument back at you is that the Nissan doesn't have to go to the shop to get the HP added on. NO wrenching required, just turn the key and go!
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