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Old May 8th, 2009, 12:45 PM     #9181 (permalink)
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We have 2-3$ a gallon fuel for MAYBE another year/year and a half..... then its gonna get ugly again.
Hopefully, by that time, the economy will have settled a bit- and technology for hydrogen fuel systems or battery cells will be far better and actually affordable to the common American...
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Old May 8th, 2009, 01:06 PM     #9182 (permalink)
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Expect hydrogen-powered passenger cars more like around the 2020 to 2025 time frame. It is not for the lack of being able to produce them, but instead for a lack of a viable fuel distribution network.

Then again, even if fuel is available, look at what is happening to alternative fuel vehicles like the Civic GX. IIRC, I have heard rumors that Honda is thinking about dropping it.

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Hybrid is the industry buzzword, which is depressing considering the cost and environmental impact of the batteries involved. Manufacturers like Toyota could just as easily replace the drivetrain of the Prius with a direct injection I4 and probably turn even better MPG than the hybrid model.

I am reminded of a local shop building a Honda Insight with a K20a swap. 200HP I4 and six-speed trans in a lightweight aluminum car with an extremely aerodynamic body. Reportedly delivered ~48MPG for highway cruising, yet delivered a horsepower to weight potential more like that of a Lotus sports car.

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Old May 12th, 2009, 06:03 PM     #9183 (permalink)
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totaled 20 hrs into ownership....









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Old May 12th, 2009, 08:15 PM     #9184 (permalink)
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Not by the way those tires and brake rotors look
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Old May 12th, 2009, 09:20 PM     #9185 (permalink)
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Old May 12th, 2009, 10:04 PM     #9186 (permalink)
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huh?????

He means to say that from the pictures it does not appear to match up. Can you give us more info as to what happened?


On the topic of MPG ...

With the line of thinking that gas is going to go up, also having just paid off my civic, I have started to think about what i can do to improve gas mileage. Although i would love to get a new car, I just dont see it happening as the MPG from my current civic ~26-28 depending on the city/highway usage isnt worthwhile to sink another 20k to get ~30-32. Anyone have any suggestions on what if anything i can improve from a stock 2000 Civic EX to get some better fuel economy?
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Old May 12th, 2009, 10:13 PM     #9187 (permalink)
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We have those pictures hanging up at the dealer, Haider.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 11:23 PM     #9188 (permalink)
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huh?????

The left rear looks about half worn and the rotor has wear grooves, quite obvious, IMO. But then, it could my bi-focal's
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Old May 12th, 2009, 11:27 PM     #9189 (permalink)
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The left rear looks about half worn and the rotor has wear grooves, quite obvious, IMO. But then, it could my bi-focal's

How can you possibly determine that from that low-res photo? I see nothing that would make me think there's more than 20 miles on that car.
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He means to say that from the pictures it does not appear to match up. Can you give us more info as to what happened?

that's what i read, 20 hours into the ownership he got rear ended by a kid with no insurance or a drivers license.

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The left rear looks about half worn and the rotor has wear grooves, quite obvious, IMO. But then, it could my bi-focal's

that's REALLY hard to tell all that from a tiny picture....but if you say so.
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