Texas Atty General sues Sony/BMG

**yammahoppy** · November 21st, 2005, 03:28 PM

http://www.oag.state.tx.us/oagNews/release.php?id=1266

**lost-and-found** · November 21st, 2005, 03:33 PM

awsome, and at the same time the RIAA CO shows his support for Sony's actions: http://www.boingboing.net/2005/11/20...ots_of_co.html

**osprey4** · November 21st, 2005, 04:42 PM

Awesome? Why, are you a Texas lawyer? Because they're the only ones who will get a dime out of this.

Otherwise, you get squat!!

**no1_vern** · November 21st, 2005, 04:59 PM

We get squat?? NOt exactly.

Sony will be hit in the pockets by this lawsuit and the only real way to hurt a corporation as large as SONY is to hit them in the wallet. I FOR ONE agree with the lawsuit.

If it only makes the lawyers richer I will be saddened, but I want SONY punished for putting hackerware on innocent peoples' computers. IF Sony were apologetic, or if the music industry said that Sony did something wrong, I might be willing to let is slide, but they DID NOT!! THEY defended their stance saying that they HAD TO COVERTLY INSTALL HACKERWARE on the computers of the people who actually trusted them to put out music.

I FOR ONE will never buy SONY-BMG again, but that is such a loss I am not a real music lover, and I have less that 100 music CD-roms since they first came out in the '80s. Thousands of people have bought these hacked CDs and many thousands of computers are now vulnerable to the exploits that can use the rootkit. Also the musicians who DID NOT give Sony-BMG permission to put hackerware on the CDs are talking about a lawsuit- we dont know if it will happen or not but it IS being talked about. I wouldnt blame ANY of the musician whose music career is damaged by this incident for sueing SONY-BMG.

So IF I never see a penny, but it costs SONY-BMG millions, I am for it.

**DesertFox01** · November 21st, 2005, 05:13 PM

i think this is crazy and should'nt be done its just another pointless lawsuit go sue walmart or something

**no1_vern** · November 21st, 2005, 05:14 PM

BTW:

One class-action lawsuit against Sony BMG Music Entertainment has been filed in California, and more are expected as lawyers enter the Sony rootkit-as-copy-protection fray

FROM: http://www.informationweek.com/showA...leID=173601761

So its Texas and California(and I hope more states).

While I am ranting:

if purchasers declare personal bankruptcy, the EULA requires them to delete any digital copies on their computers or portable music players. The same is true if a customer's house gets burglarized and his CDs stolen, since the EULA allows purchasers to keep copies only so long as they retain physical possession of the original CD.

FRom: http://www.linuxelectrons.com/articl...51121142659265

**no1_vern** · November 21st, 2005, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by DesertFox01

i think this is crazy and should'nt be done its just another pointless lawsuit go sue walmart or something

Do you really believe that defending the consumer is crazy, and pointless?

**GameManK** · November 21st, 2005, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by no1_vern

I wouldnt blame ANY of the musician whose music career is damaged by this incident for sueing SONY-BMG.

I didn't think about that before. If a lot of us go boycotting these CD's, the musicians lose money, and it's Sony's fault because of the rootkit!

I really think musicians should sue but on what legal basis?

**DesertFox01** · November 21st, 2005, 09:34 PM

well not but i like sony but i dont like walmart so go sue them i say

**bwcc** · November 22nd, 2005, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by GameManK

If a lot of us go boycotting these CD's, the musicians lose money, and it's Sony's fault because of the rootkit!

Welcome to cause & effect.

Originally Posted by GameManK

I really think musicians should sue but on what legal basis?

Corporate sabotage???

**Chuckiechan** · November 22nd, 2005, 02:43 AM

I hope the case is heard by an all "geek" jury!

I can't wait for my $ .50 settlement coupon!

**DeathWish187** · November 22nd, 2005, 10:36 AM

im sure all the cds that had this werent worth buying anyway

**osprey4** · November 22nd, 2005, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by no1_vern

Do you really believe that defending the consumer is crazy, and pointless?

The well informed consumer is the best defense against stupid companies. Vote with your feet!!

But taking money from Sony to pay lawyers, who will throw a few crumbs to consumers, doesn't help anyone but the slimy lawyers.

**no1_vern** · November 23rd, 2005, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by osprey4

The well informed consumer is the best defense against stupid companies. Vote with your feet!!

I agree, but the reality is that the media is the main way for the information to get to the "great uninformed masses", but the media is pretty much controlled by who, You ask, thats right by the big corporations like Sony-BMG, Ford, and Chevy. Let me ask you, how many products were recalled last week(just last week)?
How many just food products recalled?

But taking money from Sony to pay lawyers, who will throw a few crumbs to consumers, doesn't help anyone but the slimy lawyers.

I agree up to a point. What method do you suggest that will prevent this from happening again? I cant think of anything other than hitting Sony in the pockets.