9/11: Debunking The Myths

[Daft_Ghosty]

don't even waste anymore of your time BBA, you will only get the same rhethoric responses as you would get from religious zealots.. I've dealt to many times with closed minded people, on subjects as broad as gun laws, Constitutional rights, and American politics.. It wouldn't matter if God came down Himself, and through His Divine wisdom showed the truth of the subject. If it differed from their own belief even God would be wrong..

Anything you put forth as evidence will be denounced as government funded cover-ups, because it differs from what they believe.. Just let the people who want to remain ignorant, remain so.

[BBA]

Yeah...it's not worth my time, I agree.

[John Prophet]

I agree......and I stated it several times already....its obvious to see when there is a total communication disconnect

for anyone to identify a problem as somehow due to one political party or another is an extremely telling response......they arent even close to understanding the issues at hand

and as I also stated, to say that someone who demands answers of their govt is somehow attacking the country is utter foolishness



some of you need to do a little historical reading

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from the government.
- Thomas Paine

"A President is impeachable if he attempts to subvert the Constitution".
-- President James Madison

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither."
- Ben Franklin

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
- Samuel Adams

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
- Edmund Burke

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it."
- President Abraham Lincoln

"In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce and brave man, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."
- 'Mark Twain'

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President."
- President Theodore Roosevelt

"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly as necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."
- President Theodore Roosevelt, 1912

"I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually."
- James Baldwin, Notes of a Native Son

"So long as we have enough people in this country willing to fight for their rights, we'll be called a democracy."
- Roger Baldwin

"Disobedience, in the eyes of any one who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience that progress has been made, through disobedience and through rebellion."
- Oscar Wilde

"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it."
- George Bernard Shaw

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort, and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
- Dr. Martin Luther King

"Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the indifference of those who should have known better; the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most; that has made it possible for evil to triumph."
- Haile Selassie

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
- Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.

[Creatures]

somehow i miss this board =)
all the fun discussions =)

i just saw the loose change video and thought about all the fun threads here at techimo about conspiracy, and i wanted to find out if there are still those fun threads ;P

looks like nothing really changed here =)

oh and of course my opinion:

whatever happened there, and whoever did that, it was the worst thing that happened since hitler/stalin/lelin and the second worldwar (ok not really... there were a lot of wars inbetween, but well it shocked to most since then ;P). it doesnt really make a difference if it was the american gouvernment or a terrorist group, both got what they wanted, all hate/fear the islamis and america got their war and oil and lots of blood on their hands.

the radical islamis are a threat, i have to agree, but the todays world is itself a threat to its inhabitants (spell?) not just america or england or france, every modern (western) civilisation has too much power over their people, and that's the real threat.

just for your information i was never anti-american for those who may thought so, i'm pretty much anti-everything ;P except science this is something i can believe in: It is not so much that I have confidence in scientists being right, but that I have so much in nonscientists being wrong. Asimov

well i'm kinda back, maybe =)

Creatures

[Disley]

quote from American Budda.
Thus, a CIA front corporation is
not really part of the private sector – it is an emanation of Langley just as surely as the local station chief and his staff.

But it should also be clear that state sponsored terrorism cannot call itself by its own real name. It must necessarily masquerade as an authentic voice of the oppressed – be they Arabs, Moslems, workers, national minorities, or whatever. The terror groups cannot be labeled CIA or KGB – they must call themselves Red Brigades, Red Army faction, ETA, or al Qaeda. The false flag and false ideology allows the terror group to pretend that it is something that it is not, and to convince billions of naïve viewers of CNN or al Jazeera that the false dumb-show is indeed reality.

[pickel]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disley

quote from American Budda.
Thus, a CIA front corporation is
not really part of the private sector – it is an emanation of Langley just as surely as the local station chief and his staff.

But it should also be clear that state sponsored terrorism cannot call itself by its own real name. It must necessarily masquerade as an authentic voice of the oppressed – be they Arabs, Moslems, workers, national minorities, or whatever. The terror groups cannot be labeled CIA or KGB – they must call themselves Red Brigades, Red Army faction, ETA, or al Qaeda. The false flag and false ideology allows the terror group to pretend that it is something that it is not, and to convince billions of naïve viewers of CNN or al Jazeera that the false dumb-show is indeed reality.

" It must necessarily masquerade as an authentic voice of the oppressed – be they Arabs, Moslems, workers, national minorities, or whatever.

Mohhamed Bush
Ali Atta Cheeney
Karreem Rumsfeld
Amal Rove
Da'aad Kerr
Yussuf Kennedy
And the Three Stooges(Abd al-akiim )

[John Prophet]

hehe, this list of names is as close as the FBI/911 Commission list

[BBA]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creatures

both got what they wanted, all hate/fear the islamis and america got their war and oil and lots of blood on their hands.

So...where is my oil?

I'd really like my low gas prices back please.

[John Prophet]

hehe BBA....eventually the realization will come to you that when it is said "the war was for oil"...that it doesnt mean its for cheap oil for YOU AND ME....it means it is for CONTROL of the oil for the oil COMPANIES

notice the oil execs in the Bush administration...quite a few of them.....do you think cheap oil plays ANYWHERE into their plans??

eventually youll figure out that Oil Execs WANT high prices...they dont give a flip what you want

they made record profits last year....so the "war for oil" plan is working perfectly...for them


how does it feel to be sold out and to know Americans are dying so oil companies can have record profits while you pay record prices??


eventually, in figuring out that huge companies "run the show" even moreso than the "govt" does, you will figure out what "Fascism" is

[BBA]

And by that token, if we had seized oil in Iraq and made out like you predicted 4 years ago...you would be saying we did it to steal oil.

Either way, your argument is weak. What happenned to tapping the oil we have here? If I remember all the proposals so far have been blocked by the, uh...left. Now...where are high prices coming from? Could it have anything to do with the record high oil per barrel prices? Or the higher refinery costs (grandfather clause on old refineries ran out and now we only have about 1/2 the refineries we had 3 years ago)

The only thing oil has to do with this war is to give the left something to argue over while the radicalists muslims get weapons funded by the price of barrels.