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Old August 4th, 2006, 10:41 PM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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9/11: Debunking The Myths

"To investigate 16 of the most prevalent claims made by conspiracy theorists, POPULAR MECHANICS assembled a team of nine researchers and reporters who, together with PM editors, consulted more than 70 professionals in fields that form the core content of this magazine, including aviation, engineering and the military.

In the end, we were able to debunk each of these assertions with hard evidence and a healthy dose of common sense. We learned that a few theories are based on something as innocent as a reporting error on that chaotic day. Others are the byproducts of cynical imaginations that aim to inject suspicion and animosity into public debate. Only by confronting such poisonous claims with irrefutable facts can we understand what really happened on a day that is forever seared into world history.--THE EDITORS

FACT: One of the clearest, most widely seen pictures of the doomed jet's undercarriage was taken by photographer Rob Howard and published in New York magazine and elsewhere (opening page). PM sent a digital scan of the original photo to Ronald Greeley, director of the Space Photography Laboratory at Arizona State University. Greeley is an expert at analyzing images to determine the shape and features of geological formations based on shadow and light effects. After studying the high-resolution image and comparing it to photos of a Boeing 767-200ER's undercarriage, Greeley dismissed the notion that the Howard photo reveals a "pod." In fact, the photo reveals only the Boeing's right fairing, a pronounced bulge that contains the landing gear. He concludes that sunlight glinting off the fairing gave it an exaggerated look. "Such a glint causes a blossoming (enlargement) on film," he writes in an e-mail to PM, "which tends to be amplified in digital versions of images--the pixels are saturated and tend to 'spill over' to adjacent pixels." When asked about pods attached to civilian aircraft, Fred E. Culick, professor of aeronautics at the California Institute of Technology, gave a blunter response: "That's bull. They're really stretching

FACT: Birnbach, who was a freelance videographer with FOX News at the time, tells PM that he was more than 2 miles southeast of the WTC, in Brooklyn, when he briefly saw a plane fly over. He says that, in fact, he did not see the plane strike the South Tower; he says he only heard the explosion.

THE WORLD TRADE CENTER
The collapse of both World Trade Center towers--and the smaller WTC 7 a few hours later--initially surprised even some experts. But subsequent studies have shown that the WTC's structural integrity was destroyed by intense fire as well as the severe damage inflicted by the planes. That explanation hasn't swayed conspiracy theorists, who contend that all three buildings were wired with explosives in advance and razed in a series of controlled demolitions.






Widespread Damage
CLAIM: The first hijacked plane crashed through the 94th to the 98th floors of the World Trade Center's 110-story North Tower; the second jet slammed into the 78th to the 84th floors of the 110-story South Tower. The impact and ensuing fires disrupted elevator service in both buildings. Plus, the lobbies of both buildings were visibly damaged before the towers collapsed. "There is NO WAY the impact of the jet caused such widespread damage 80 stories below," claims a posting on the San Diego Independent Media Center Web site (sandiego.indymedia.org). "It is OBVIOUS and irrefutable that OTHER EXPLOSIVES (... such as concussion bombs) HAD ALREADY BEEN DETONATED in the lower levels of tower one at the same time as the plane crash."

FACT: Following up on a May 2002 preliminary report by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), a major study will be released in spring 2005 by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), a branch of the U.S. Department of Commerce. NIST shared its initial findings with PM and made its lead researcher available to our team of reporters.

The NIST investigation revealed that plane debris sliced through the utility shafts at the North Tower's core, creating a conduit for burning jet fuel--and fiery destruction throughout the building. "It's very hard to document where the fuel went," says Forman Williams, a NIST adviser and a combustion expert, "but if it's atomized and combustible and gets to an ignition source, it'll go off."

Burning fuel traveling down the elevator shafts would have disrupted the elevator systems and caused extensive damage to the lobbies. NIST heard first-person testimony that "some elevators slammed right down" to the ground floor. "The doors cracked open on the lobby floor and flames came out and people died," says James Quintiere, an engineering professor at the University of Maryland and a NIST adviser. A similar observation was made in the French documentary "9/11," by Jules and Gedeon Naudet. As Jules Naudet entered the North Tower lobby, minutes after the first aircraft struck, he saw victims on fire, a scene he found too horrific to film.


"Melted" Steel
CLAIM: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.

"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down.

Puffs Of Dust
FACT: Once each tower began to collapse, the weight of all the floors above the collapsed zone bore down with pulverizing force on the highest intact floor. Unable to absorb the massive energy, that floor would fail, transmitting the forces to the floor below, allowing the collapse to progress downward through the building in a chain reaction. Engineers call the process "pancaking," and it does not require an explosion to begin, according to David Biggs, a structural engineer at Ryan-Biggs Associates and a member of the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) team that worked on the FEMA report.

WTC 7 Collapse
CLAIM: Seven hours after the two towers fell, the 47-story WTC 7 collapsed. According to 911review.org: "The video clearly shows that it was not a collapse subsequent to a fire, but rather a controlled demolition: amongst the Internet investigators, the jury is in on this one."

FACT: Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA's preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. "The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom--approximately 10 stories--about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.

NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse," a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or "kinks," in the building's facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.

According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."

There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.

Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. "There was no firefighting in WTC 7," Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: "Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time."

WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors--along with the building's unusual construction--were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.

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Old August 4th, 2006, 10:58 PM     #2 (permalink)
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It is funny how people will come up with conspiracy theories for political reasons.

I just have to use experience in seeing reality versus assumption and rely on common sense and realize that any situation can look like something it isn't given the right spin.

Thats a good bit of research on the part of the magazine, But...there is always enough misinformation to feed the idiots (conspiracy theorists) anything they want to make into an agenda.
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Old August 4th, 2006, 11:19 PM     #3 (permalink)
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"I'm sure in time there will be a link to Bush to Popular Mechanics, I bet that research was partially funded by the gov't to attempt to hide the truth given that the 5th anniversary of 9/11 is soon approaching"

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What about the research that "conspiracy theorists" do. What about all the interviews with professionals from the military, government, and other sources? I personally do enjoy reading about conspiracy theorys. So you can call me a "conspiracy theorist" if you want. If the myths are debunked then how come after every single debunk it says what the supposed "officials" hypothosised. That is not the same thing as truth. What about that guy got millions of dollars worth of insurance money after he bought the building. He insured the building in case it would catch fire? This was just a week or maby days before 9/11 I do not remember. There many other things I should say but I do not want another of these 9/11 threads to go to waste like many of the other ones. I personally believe this was a government conspiracy so please call me an idiot. Everyone knows the media feed BS so why all of a sudden when the media tells us it was terriorist does everyone decide to believe it?
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When the Media tells you that a hurricane is coming and that you need to leave your town, are you going to believe them , or some other guy that says "bah, they just want you to leave so they can seize your stuff ".

Why is a conspiracy theorist any more reliable than the media? At least the media is supposed to adhere to a code of ethics.
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Old August 5th, 2006, 03:05 AM     #6 (permalink)
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lol...how gullible can one be?

how many dozens of times does the mainstream media have to lie to you before you get pissed and quit believing the propaganda?

isnt it enough that Bush has paid Billions (thats with a B) for fake news stories? and he keeps on doing so even though the GAO says it is illegal. People like Armstrong Williams got busted for taking only $240,000 out of those billions...a tiny drop in the bucket.....all he had to do was use his platform to promote Bushs "no child left behind" program as if it was actually HIS (Armstrongs) opinion...but it wasnt..he was being a paid shill

there are dozens of fake govt funded websites purporting to be real etc.....hundreds of fake news pieces being passed off as real

the media whores parrot every govt lie they are handed...WMD's, fake war stories etc etc.....yet people speak up in defense of the media whores who are helping sell the county out


for those one or two who really give a flip here is a nice link about "operation mockingbird"....a CIA operation giving them major control of media outlets for years now...old story http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...ct_Mockingbird

there are dozens of books on the subject

but did YOU know anything about it before you shot your mouth off about how trustworthy the mainsteam media is??

id say no, you probably speak out of total ignorance and you insult people who have put hundreds of hours study into the subject matter

nice job...REAL patriotic!!!!

I guess some people are better off just watching football and Nascar or whatever sitcom is this weeks flavor

but hey, I just post for fun now...because evidently no amount of solid info can wake up someone in a deep coma...so now I just post for fun and to see how adamant people can be about remaining totally ignorant





oh, yes, btw, of course you are correct about a link to Bush/White House with the POp Mech story.....its not really rocket science to identify a hit piece.....the "lead guy" on the story was Benjamin Chertoff.... the cousin of Michael Chertoff...the Homeland Security Cheif

to his credit he had the balls to go onto Alex Jones radio show where he promptly showed his ignorance...he hadnt even HEARD of half of the major 911 issues...I felt totally sorry for the guy


a lot here about it http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/090305alexresponds.htm



after this amount of time....with the huge amount and range of info that has surfaced about 911 and about the total whoredom/central control of the mainstream media, I can only gather that some people have a total mental block and they just CANT and WONT allow themselves to see the truth

as the man said "YOU CAN THANDLE THE TRUTH!"


Techimo is an interesting case study...the average person here seems to be WAY behind the curve as far as 911 truth or media truth is concerned and very adamant against even discussing the info......I suppose it is because it is a fairly conservative site....loyalty to the state or something along those lines...maybe Tories, who knows, lol
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It's quite funny how John doesn't actually argue with any of the factual points given in the popular mechanics article, and instead refers to people here being 'ignorant'. Attacking a persons character, such as Benjamin Chertoff, doesn't debunk his argument. Listen to what's being said, not who's saying it. If we all adopted this approach, people would not take what you have to say in most technical discussions seriously, since a lot of the time people don't take your conspiracy theories seriously.

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It's quite funny how John doesn't actually argue with any of the factual points given in the popular mechanics article, and instead refers to people here being 'ignorant'. Attacking a persons character, such as Benjamin Chertoff, doesn't debunk his argument. Listen to what's being said, not who's saying it. If we all adopted this approach, people would not take what you have to say in most technical discussions seriously, since a lot of the time people don't take your conspiracy theories seriously.

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That is how it occurs when a person is confronted with the facts for which they have no legitimate response,they switch to attacking the person. They attempt to divert the attention away from the facts of the arguement to make this a personal attack.When loosing the arguement chage your strategy to a personal attack to attempt to win.

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...to his credit he had the balls to go onto Alex Jones radio show where he promptly showed his ignorance...he hadnt even HEARD of half of the major 911 issues...I felt totally sorry for the guy
a lot here about it http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/090305alexresponds.htm

I don't see how you can say he was trashing the messenger at all, he was pointing out that his own brother apparently blind-sided him and that he wasn't prepared to debunk the conspiracy theories when he went on this talk show.

If there is any character assassination going on here, you guys have the corner on the market. Where are your facts to argue against what JP is saying? You, the self-righteous who don't trash messengers.
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