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Old November 2nd, 2006, 02:50 AM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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Mail carriers go postal over Religious Hate Mail pamphlet

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Canada Post hate mail Baptist Sterling Clark

Unionized postal workers at an east Vancouver sub-station walked off the job Thursday morning, refusing to handle a publication called The Prophetic Word, published by the Ontario-based Fundamental Baptist mission. The protest was sparked by a headline on an article by Rev. Sterling Clark which stated that AIDS was “the consequences of the sin of homosexuality.” Union spokesman Ken Mooney characterized the booklet as an anti-gay diatribe.



See! Now this religious hate and intolerance is spreading up here.

If Canada Post Corp. wants to play games, I can too.

Any Canadian can stop unaddressed add mail by affixing a note on there mail box for the mail carrier to obey:

Stop All Un-Addressed Ad Mail and Flyers From Being Delivered To This Mail Box

If after you post the note you still get unaddressed mail, call the post office and ask for the Post Master.

I was instructed by a Post Master on how to stop this unwanted mail.
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 08:46 AM     #2 (permalink)
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See! Now this religious hate and intolerance is spreading up here.

Beemer, you yourself are a constant reminder of this fact.
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But it would have been no problem for them to process something with pornographic material on their mail.

It's just bunch of idiots who should be fired for not doing their job, plain and simple.
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 12:27 PM     #4 (permalink)
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But it would have been no problem for them to process something with pornographic material on their mail.

It's just bunch of idiots who should be fired for not doing their job, plain and simple.

Usually porn is ordered in the mail and is a offense if it was not requested.

Doing ones job without thought makes you just another useless cog in society. One must think of the repercussions of what one does.
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 01:35 PM     #5 (permalink)
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And I must remind you that religion is nothing more than a life style. A lifestyle that is full of bigots and intolerant people.

This thread has centered out the Fundamentalist Baptist Mission in Waterford, Ont for submitting, for all intensive purposes, hate speech mail.

Not hate speech mail?

What do you think of a pamphlet named:
The Plague of this 21st Century: The Consequences of the sin of Homosexuality (AIDS). This is on a par with racism.

Call me intolerant if you must but I think I know where you are getting it from. Bigoted religious idealism. With any luck, religion will no longer have any protection under hate speech laws in Canada very soon.

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Mail carriers go postal over Religious Hate Mail pamphlet

How many postal employee's died???

My opinion on this, for what it's worth . . .

While I'm of the opinion that as postal workers, they should do their job and deliver the mail . . . I also feel it's thier responsibility to draw attention to what may be considered "hate" mail. The question then comes down to whether they should have refused to deliver it, or contacted higher authority for instructions on what they should do. If they made the decision to refuse to deliver on their own . . . I'd say they are wrong. However, if they talked to their boss, or his boss, or even his boss . . . and one of them agreed to withhold delivery, then all the more power to them.

BTW Beemer, it isn't spreading to Canada from the U.S., rather it's always been there, but is now coming out of the closet.

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But it would have been no problem for them to process something with pornographic material on their mail.

Which brings up the questions . . .

What about "kiddie porn"?
What about beastiality?

Would/should the postal workers have the right to refuse to deliver those as well? Or better yet . . . would they refuse to deliver them, or would they deliver them as "business as usual"?

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It's just bunch of idiots who should be fired for not doing their job, plain and simple.

It's neither plain, nor simple BBA . . .

I don't think we're getting the entire story or events as they happened . . . I guess we'll have to wait to see, if we ever do, what the final outcome is.

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My guess here is that if Beemer worked in a mail business, he would consider refusing to deliver or misplace, even an ordered Bible, simply because he is so biased against religion.


sharder8 may be right here, we are not getting the whole picture but I am sure it will come out.
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A lifestyle that is full of bigots and intolerant people.

One with which you are all too familiar, as is evidenced daily from your posts.
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Fundamentalist Baptist Mission in Waterford, Ont is an expansion of the Southern Baptists.

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The union's national office has not taken an official stance so far, but Mooney said the union's constitution states that carriers must take every step to "eliminate racism, discrimination and homophobia from our workplaces."

You'll further notice that in all the articles cited so far it mentions that the posties didn't go on strike. They had an extended coffee break of 15 minutes in protest. Further, this is unaddressed ad mail. This lines the pockets of the Canada Post Corp. The concern is the bottom line. Canada Post has 3 days in which to deliver the mail. That is enough time to lodge a complaint and show concern with hate speech being pushed through Canada Post.

The problem is with the Criminal Code of Canada allowing for religious hate.
The Code sets out a list of defenses under which people can fight a charge of promotion of hatred which includes:
*expressing or attempting to establish an argument based on a religious opinion

That get out of jail free card has no business being in there and it will be challenged very soon.
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