This is not right!!!!!

Epidemic · June 6th, 2002, 01:10 AM

I do not know how to calculate pain and suffering so that might come out of another actuary table.

All I am trying to do is remove the incentive to ask for the moon. You will now ask for reasonable and if you really feal like giving em what for you can employ the Punitive charity payment.

I guess I have also drifted off to the realm of rational cases.

Now as for the frivolous cases I would allow the company to bring a counter frivous law suit where they can recoupe some of the money they spent defending the Lady with the clapper that malfunctioned. You know it broke and she injured her wrist trying to turn on the light.

**GroundZero3** · June 6th, 2002, 01:16 AM

bottom line: they lied about there food.

like many said Hindu worship cows and MC Donalds should put a list of ingedents and how they prepare there food IMHO. i don't see this as a get rich fast scheme.

Angela said it best.

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For a company like McD's to say a product is vegetarian when it is, in fact, not, is not a small or frivolous matter, in my opinion.

they LIED. so how is this a frivolous law suit? You pay the price when you lie. and thats what MC D is doing.

Gomer · June 6th, 2002, 01:21 AM

Soyulent Green is people I tell you! Soyulent Green is People!!!

no1_vern · June 6th, 2002, 01:33 AM

Sorry Epidemic almost all the Multimillion lawsuits are decided(not all) by jury and if 12 people agree that a corporation is negligent
then the corp has to pay. Several cases I remember reading about the JURY DECIDED to award a LARGER amount that the person was asking for.
In fact from what I have read in most of the cases the LAWYER recieves as much as 60% of the award, then you have the actual court costs at upwards of 3,000 a day(here in georga), the list goes on and on in costs to make a court case.
For a corporation to pay say 100,000.00 in damages to a person is meaningless. It doesnt make the corporation want to corect thier ways. If corp A. makes 150 Million Per quarter and they pay one 100,000 lawsuit that is less than .01% of their bottom line annually.

Warthog · June 6th, 2002, 01:34 AM

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They wanted the profit and it didnt matter who the hurt to make the money. That is why McD's pays minimum wage.

Oh c'mon...and other business, large or small don't pay minimum wage??? Don't single any corp. out here.....::rollseyes::..

To cure my own curiousity:

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Beef essence is a seasoning made with boiled cattle meat or bone

Mortis · June 6th, 2002, 01:53 AM

Factual Information: The bottum line of a LawSuit is Monetary Punishment- that cost/punishment, in the end, is paid by the consumer. Dont anyone kid themselves differently. McDonalds and most other food service industries (heck, many large Corps) have a line item in their budgets for such things- Lawsuits, Insurance... etc. The overall budget determines how much a BigMac or QuarterPounder costs. We pay that cost- We pay the LawSuits. This doesnt hurt McD's.

My Opinion: Fast Food is NOT health food. Maybe they (MD) did misrepresent something, but bottum line (IMO)- If you are that strict about your diet and beliefs... dont do FAST FOOD! I think it is Rediculous- the lawsuit, that is. EveryOne knows whats in a HotDog... you read the ingrediants on the package and it is pretty vague, but we all know. Fast Food is the same way. AnyOne who is that conscience of how and what they eat should add their own common sense and judgement into the equation- I feel these persons are just as ludicrous as the Suit they filed (this has nothing to do with beliefs- just sense and good judgement).

Mortis

Gomer · June 6th, 2002, 02:04 AM

Mortis.. the WE you keep referring to are MD's customers, not society in general. They strive to keep costs at a level where they won't drive business off.

And yes, they do budget for lawsuits and insurance... However, someone in marketing found they could increase sales by adding beef to the french fries. Adding beef flavor can't be cheaper than not adding beef flavor right... But boy does it get people to wolf them down. And Joe Marketing surely wasn't going to make this public as it would drive the vegetarian crowd away... the vegetarian crowd they drew by marketing 100% vegetable oil right?

So MD's was raking in cash with their beef laced fries all the while knowing they may get caught so they leave some money aside. Sure, they could not lay that money aside, pass it on to the consumer, and remove the beef flavor thus saving even more money... but people would eat less fries hurting the bottom line and offsetting the money saved by not having to account for a possible lawsuit.

Makes ya wonder what other things they are getting away with that they have "lawsuit money" socked away for.

Knothead · June 6th, 2002, 02:53 AM

Hey, this thread got really interesting!

I confess, I've been using that "Coffee Lady" award as an example of the excesses of the legal biz...but there was some data here that I didn't know about...of course, I still think the legal biz IS pretty excessive, but I also have a little more sympathy for that woman now.

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My Opinion: Fast Food is NOT health food. Maybe they (MD) did misrepresent something, but bottum line (IMO)- If you are that strict about your diet and beliefs... dont do FAST FOOD!

--Mortis

Yep, that's about it! Course, I do grab something at McD's every so often, but I sure don't jive myself that it's anything other than a quick, cheap fix...shoot, you only get what you pay for. And if I had ANY kind of dietary requirements, I sure as shootin' wouldn't entrust 'em to Ronald McDonald!!

Yeah, I know, that doesn't excuse McD's from being avaricious LIARS or anything, but...oh, come on.... as long as the stuff ain't laced with Strychnine, and nobody's forcing me to go there, I'm willing to assume that there are...

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other things they are getting away with that they have "lawsuit money" socked away for.

ILC · June 6th, 2002, 03:01 AM

Alright cmon people, this is rediculous. McD's didnt lie, something as stupid beef essence (aka beef FLAVORING) can very easily be overlooked. Especially when it is in vegetable oil. Chances are McD's doesnt even make their own oil, it probally subbed out to another company, and very few people inside MCD's even knew it was in there.

Some of you all are making it out like it was a huge conspiracy to go against the hindus. Cmon people, get real. Lets use common sense here once and a while.

This is a completely frivilous lawsuit. Its disgusting how sue happy people are becoming.

ILC

Warthog · June 6th, 2002, 03:26 AM

ILC, but the bottom line is that it had a tiny little bit of beef in it so a group of people got pissed (see my post above).

This lawsuit does have legality to it, IMO, regardless if the people were wrong for going to McDonalds to be on a certain diet or not...as has been said before, the bottom line is that McDonalds said the fries didn't have ANY beef at all in them and they did.

There are farrrrrrrr, far worse lawsuits to make examples of if we want to talk about frivilous.

Warthog